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Polter-Cow - Sep 04, 2004 3:16:21 pm PDT #5792 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

ita, wasn't Volume 2 of NML the one where you were complaining about the art? Cause I can see why. The art in the first storyline is just awful, way too cartoony and retro for the tone (plus the writer had sucky cliffhangers), and the next storyline's art is messy and dark, with the wide shots never as distinct as the close-ups. Maleev's art in "No Law and a New Order" worked rather well, and seeing Teran's style made me appreciate it much more. The last half has better art, I think; it's interesting to see all these varying styles.

I'm interested in seeing what the overarching storyline ends up being. This looks different from War Games, which has one storyline being handled by multiple writers. Here, multiple writers get their own little arcs. It kind of distills the sense of urgency when things keep coming to a close. But it's still a fascinating look at Gotham in a dire situation, and it's more compelling intellectually than War Games.


§ ita § - Sep 04, 2004 3:23:08 pm PDT #5793 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yes. that was the one, P-C. Just nasty, and jerks me right out of the text.

I really liked NML -- I'm not used to the DCverse doing things that drastic to folk that aren't superheroes. Gotham is real in some part of my head. Immersive and horrible.


Steph L. - Sep 04, 2004 3:24:26 pm PDT #5794 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Dude, I *love* NML.


§ ita § - Sep 04, 2004 3:26:11 pm PDT #5795 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Once I got over the "who is this BATGIRL???" issue, yeah, it was all love. Well, and the book 2 art.


Steph L. - Sep 04, 2004 3:32:31 pm PDT #5796 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

"who is this BATGIRL???"

That was kind of part of my enjoyment of NML, actually.


§ ita § - Sep 04, 2004 3:34:42 pm PDT #5797 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That was kind of part of my enjoyment of NML, actually.

I'd just binged on 40-odd issues of Cassandra Cain, and had fallen desperately in love. My time sense was completely off, and I was worried that the stuff I'd loved about her was being undone.

That fear was completely assuaged, and I really liked what I got when I stopped being so anxious. It was a stressful couple books, though.


sumi - Sep 04, 2004 3:46:07 pm PDT #5798 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Damn, Teppy -- how did I miss that? And is Red X something that happened in the comics?

Also -- JLU - who is the guy without a face? And Supergirl lives with the Kents?


victor infante - Sep 04, 2004 3:49:19 pm PDT #5799 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Sumi, I've not seen JLU, but from what I've seen, the guy without a face is the Question, a sort of Vigilante type with a very Randian world view. And while I'm not sure which version of Supergirl they're using, most versions have indeed spent time living with the Kents (as Superboy does now.) It's sort of "Super" initiation thing. "You can join the society of superpeople, but first you must prove you vcan survive ... the very nice old people!


Steph L. - Sep 04, 2004 3:49:47 pm PDT #5800 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Sumi, the Jason Todd reference was on the blackboard that BB whipped out when he was spouting off his theories.

And I haven't read much of the previous runs of Teen Titans, so I don't know if Red X was in them. But I know the current comics haven't gone that way.

And in JLU, I have no idea who faceless dude is. And I don't know if Supergirl lives with the Kents.


DXMachina - Sep 04, 2004 3:51:06 pm PDT #5801 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

The clone looks a hell a lot like Powergirl