Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Steph L. - Sep 04, 2004 3:49:47 pm PDT #5800 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Sumi, the Jason Todd reference was on the blackboard that BB whipped out when he was spouting off his theories.

And I haven't read much of the previous runs of Teen Titans, so I don't know if Red X was in them. But I know the current comics haven't gone that way.

And in JLU, I have no idea who faceless dude is. And I don't know if Supergirl lives with the Kents.


DXMachina - Sep 04, 2004 3:51:06 pm PDT #5801 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

The clone looks a hell a lot like Powergirl


DavidS - Sep 04, 2004 3:52:23 pm PDT #5802 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

sumi, metatext answer: The Question was Steve Ditko's whackaloon liberterian (not in the Victor way) vigilante character. Rorschach in Watchmen is somewhat based on him.


Steph L. - Sep 04, 2004 3:52:28 pm PDT #5803 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Heh. The boy band thing is cracking me up.


sumi - Sep 04, 2004 3:54:26 pm PDT #5804 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Thanks everyone.


Steph L. - Sep 04, 2004 3:57:22 pm PDT #5805 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay, I totally didn't understand JLU. I got the clone thing, and....that's about it. Me dumb. Me so d-u-m.


sumi - Sep 04, 2004 4:00:29 pm PDT #5806 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

That was interesting.

I'm glad that Ollie was back this week.


Polter-Cow - Sep 04, 2004 4:12:01 pm PDT #5807 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Just nasty, and jerks me right out of the text.

Yeah, seriously. I'd never really understood what you meant by bad art taking you out of the text until that cartoony shit.

Once I got over the "who is this BATGIRL???" issue

See, I accidentally spoiled myself for that, and I guess it's kind of nice not having to worry about that. I'm waiting for the identity to be revealed so I can become unspoiled.

I'd just binged on 40-odd issues of Cassandra Cain

I just finished reading "The Mark of Cain," and while I found it somewhat hard to follow (I'm not sure how much of the backstory I'm assumed to know, because I couldn't really figure out what I was supposed to be learning), it took me until the last page to realize I was being introduced to Cassandra Cain. This'll be cool, since I'm finally reading something totally new that has important ramifications afterward (Cass being the current Batgirl and all).

Dude, I *love* NML.

I'm loving parts of it (the first volume was really good, generally, and there are some good stories in the second volume (I especially love Alfred's anecdote about Bruce's dad)), but there are some clunkers. The Mr. Freeze issue is ridiculously dumb.

Okay, back to reading. Oh, few questions to see answers to when I return: Did Commissioner Gordon know Babs was Batgirl? And who's Lock-Up? And why, since Penguin is such a cool major player in NML, is he being so underused in War Games ?

(Oh Christ. Dick just said to Tim, "You're not too big to spank." You people have sullied my mind. And who's Azrael?)


P.M. Marc - Sep 04, 2004 6:35:32 pm PDT #5808 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

who's Azrael

Mini bio shamelessly stolen from DCU Guide for Azrael (Jean-Paul Valley). (Who is so totally in my mental marshmallow squad.)

It was only when his father died that Jean-Paul discovered that he had been the avenging angel of St Dumas, the agent of a strange religious sect. He also discovered that the mantle passed automatically to him, and was initiated into the Order of St. Dumas. However, aided by Batman, he resisted his mental programming and became a more moral vigilante. For a time he filled in Batman's shows, to disastruous effect as he had not yet shaken off the Order's programming, but he continues to try and make up for this, helping out his former mentor when he can.


Polter-Cow - Sep 04, 2004 7:33:27 pm PDT #5809 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I finished NML. I read it all in one day, basically. Quite a ride. Sarah's death was a shocker. But it made Joker scary, and that was good. Incidentally, I'm one of the few who liked Batman Forever, and I like it a little less now comparing Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face with NML Two-Face. Now I wonder how Scarecrow will come off onscreen.

I loved the courtroom scene, especially Harvey questioning Two-Face. Bane didn't do much for me, though.

I was surprised to discover Lex Luthor's involvement. Were there any clues in the Supes title, like random scenes of Lex making suspicious phone calls? I'm still not sure I entirely understand the whole plan with Harding and whatnot, but I figured it made sense in some way. Although I don't get the deal with Catwoman and the disc.

My hands are numb.