In GK, wasn't the bandaged guy Bruce's friend from childhood, the doctor, whose name I disremember right now (Tommy?), who was in "Hush"? Though it seemed as though he was killed in "Hush," but maybe that's the point.

Also in GK -- is the dude who was whacked *Orpheus*?

On BoP -- sumi, I had the same reaction, and I can't decide if it's in her head, or what.

Oh, and on the Tarantula issue, I get the feeling that Bats is just being a pragmatist and hoping that (1) Tarantula's involvement with the gang will keep *her* out of his hair, and (2) it might actually help keep the gang warfare under control. Though I expect all that to blow up in a big way.

I'm really confused about the BoP/IC/War Games timeline.

GK -- I did think that the bandaged guy was from Hush -- was he in the most recent pre-War Games arc of GK? I haven't read all of those.

I also thought that was Orpheus who was killed.

I should add that I haven't read Hush.

Wait, I totally missed the mention of anyone getting whacked in GK. What are you two talking about, and what implies Orpheus ?

Orpheus is this guy that Bats put into place as his man controlling the Hill. The only thing that makes me wonder if that really was him, was his going to Kosov's office without his mask.

Did you read last week's Nightwing ?

I did. I'm just confused as hell as to who all the different players in the gang war are because I was reading fast.

As far as I can tell, Bandage Guy seems to have made The Call That Started It All, Funky Helmet Dude is some guy I don't know, the Russian chick is backstabbing everyone and currently "allied" with Scarface, and the Italian boss' daughter is dying. I don't recall seeing Orpheus at all besides the first issue, and Onyx is in the hospital. I read mentions of rival gangs whacking off family members of the Italian gang, but no Big Whack that could be Orpheus. And Tarantula's totally getting in the way.

The guy with the mask is one of the bodyguards.

Of whom? Bandage Guy ? Or one of the gangs?

Of bandage guy. Unless I am much mistaken.

I think that the guy they were meeting with was a minion of the Penguin.

There is backstory leading to War Games in DC and in GK. Some of which I have read and some I haven't. I'm not very clear on all the gangs myself.

Did you see the nifty holographic map of Gotham City that Babs made? It could help.

Matt: I don't read the JLA or JSA books (though I'm happy to take recommendations). Is Oracle as involved there as she is in the Batfamily's activities? I got the sense she was more of a resource for them than an active participant. That having been said, though, certainly her knowledge of everyone's secret identities makes her a real weak point for the organization! I'm sure Batman has a secret plan for taking her out, if need be. He's so reliable that way.