I hate you all, and I hate DC more.

Onyx and Cass, fighting side by side.... Just imagine the carnage.

Hee -- Batsverse is a family not a team -- thus - - messier.

Man, for people that kvetch about the ever-expanding X-Universe, at least it's a team! Batman is like a virus with a million titles infected.

Nuh-uh!

We've got

• BoP
• Batman
• Catwoman
• 'Tec
• Gotham Central
• Gotham Knights
• LotDK
• Nightwing
• Robin

That's not even ten!

No, wait.

Batgirl.

So that's ten. But just ten!

Onyx and Cass, fighting side by side.... Just imagine the carnage.

Or the femslash.

Mmmm.

I mean, they're like, practically made for each other.

That's not even ten!

But it's really all one guy, you know? Even Professor X doesn't figure as heavily in the X-Men as Bats imprints throughout his 'verse.

It's a million titles, y'all are sick, and maybe I'll just pick up the crossover thingummy and then stop.

But it's really all one guy, you know? Even Professor X doesn't figure as heavily in the X-Men as Bats imprints throughout his 'verse.

Well, isn't he less wrapped into the fiber of the rest of the crew than Bats is?

Bats, he's father-brother-lover-leader, all merged into one screwed up package. He's the reason, y'know? The motivation. The core.

Birds of Prey (the core of which is, in many ways, actually Dinah, who is if anything an Arrow for life) contrasts the golden child with the black sheep.

Batman, well, that's his book.

Catwoman, that's the other side of the street, and he's just a fleeting fling when defenses are down, even if Selina would want more.

'Tec? Okay, also pretty much his book.

Gotham Central, he's a force they have to deal with, and would rather not.

Gotham Knights is his book, but the angle always seems to be more of the interpersonal, and sometimes, it's really about the bad guy. Or ex bad guy. Or whatever the hell Bane is now. It's the weird family book.

LotDK? His book, and often the weakest of the titles in my view, because it seems to be the title where they shove all the ideas they can't really work into the other storylines. Sometimes good, often not so good.

Nightwing is decidedly not Batman's book. Sure, Daddy plays a part, but it's still Dick's world.

Robin has a frequent lack of Batman, oddly, as Robin (at least Tim Drake Robin) was often his own agent.

Crap. I think my original list forgot Batgirl.

Which is her book, but also Batman's and Oracle's.

I think I've lost my point, if I had one. But I may have sorted out some of my title feelings.

Well, isn't he less wrapped into the fiber of the rest of the crew than Bats is?

That was kinda my point -- they're all named after him one way or another, and up until very recently pretty much either under his auspices or reacting to them. But still, NSM him.

In theory, the titles that are about other people could be much less about him. But other than Catwoman, they're all his creations and as influences go, his runs pretty deep. Hell, in my head, he even touches Outsiders (but that's me being way old school, and seeing so much of him in Dick (and get your mind out of the gutter) forever).

It's not a criticism, just a parry to something no one here said.

How big is Superman's title world?

Hell, in my head, he even touches Outsiders (but that's me being way old school, and seeing so much of him in Dick

I think he touches Teen Titans in this same way, because although Timmay was an obsessive stalker boy before he ever met the Bat, it's really Batman who trained Tim, honed and refined his skills, and made him the tightly-wound obsessive control freak he is today.

I think he touches Teen Titans in this same way

See? He's like a Lush bath bomb with psychotic glitter. Gets into everything, keeps reappearing when you're sure he should be long gone ... pervasive, infective.

How big is Superman's title world?

He seems to have a zillion titles, but as I'm only reading Adventures and Batman/Superman, I'm clueless.

Hell, in my head, he even touches Outsiders (but that's me being way old school, and seeing so much of him in Dick (and get your mind out of the gutter) forever).

Hell, in Ollie's head he touches Outsiders. You are not alone.