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P.M. Marc - Aug 05, 2004 1:05:38 pm PDT #5271 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Onyx and Cass, fighting side by side.... Just imagine the carnage.

Or the femslash.

Mmmm.

I mean, they're like, practically made for each other.


§ ita § - Aug 05, 2004 1:08:05 pm PDT #5272 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's not even ten!

But it's really all one guy, you know? Even Professor X doesn't figure as heavily in the X-Men as Bats imprints throughout his 'verse.

It's a million titles, y'all are sick, and maybe I'll just pick up the crossover thingummy and then stop.


P.M. Marc - Aug 05, 2004 1:20:15 pm PDT #5273 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

But it's really all one guy, you know? Even Professor X doesn't figure as heavily in the X-Men as Bats imprints throughout his 'verse.

Well, isn't he less wrapped into the fiber of the rest of the crew than Bats is?

Bats, he's father-brother-lover-leader, all merged into one screwed up package. He's the reason, y'know? The motivation. The core.

Birds of Prey (the core of which is, in many ways, actually Dinah, who is if anything an Arrow for life) contrasts the golden child with the black sheep.

Batman, well, that's his book.

Catwoman, that's the other side of the street, and he's just a fleeting fling when defenses are down, even if Selina would want more.

'Tec? Okay, also pretty much his book.

Gotham Central, he's a force they have to deal with, and would rather not.

Gotham Knights is his book, but the angle always seems to be more of the interpersonal, and sometimes, it's really about the bad guy. Or ex bad guy. Or whatever the hell Bane is now. It's the weird family book.

LotDK? His book, and often the weakest of the titles in my view, because it seems to be the title where they shove all the ideas they can't really work into the other storylines. Sometimes good, often not so good.

Nightwing is decidedly not Batman's book. Sure, Daddy plays a part, but it's still Dick's world.

Robin has a frequent lack of Batman, oddly, as Robin (at least Tim Drake Robin) was often his own agent.

Crap. I think my original list forgot Batgirl.

Which is her book, but also Batman's and Oracle's.

I think I've lost my point, if I had one. But I may have sorted out some of my title feelings.


§ ita § - Aug 05, 2004 1:27:39 pm PDT #5274 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, isn't he less wrapped into the fiber of the rest of the crew than Bats is?

That was kinda my point -- they're all named after him one way or another, and up until very recently pretty much either under his auspices or reacting to them. But still, NSM him.

In theory, the titles that are about other people could be much less about him. But other than Catwoman, they're all his creations and as influences go, his runs pretty deep. Hell, in my head, he even touches Outsiders (but that's me being way old school, and seeing so much of him in Dick (and get your mind out of the gutter) forever).

It's not a criticism, just a parry to something no one here said.

How big is Superman's title world?


Steph L. - Aug 05, 2004 1:33:40 pm PDT #5275 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Hell, in my head, he even touches Outsiders (but that's me being way old school, and seeing so much of him in Dick

I think he touches Teen Titans in this same way, because although Timmay was an obsessive stalker boy before he ever met the Bat, it's really Batman who trained Tim, honed and refined his skills, and made him the tightly-wound obsessive control freak he is today.


§ ita § - Aug 05, 2004 1:36:17 pm PDT #5276 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think he touches Teen Titans in this same way

See? He's like a Lush bath bomb with psychotic glitter. Gets into everything, keeps reappearing when you're sure he should be long gone ... pervasive, infective.


P.M. Marc - Aug 05, 2004 1:36:48 pm PDT #5277 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

How big is Superman's title world?

He seems to have a zillion titles, but as I'm only reading Adventures and Batman/Superman, I'm clueless.

Hell, in my head, he even touches Outsiders (but that's me being way old school, and seeing so much of him in Dick (and get your mind out of the gutter) forever).

Hell, in Ollie's head he touches Outsiders. You are not alone.


Volans - Aug 05, 2004 2:33:33 pm PDT #5278 of 10000
move out and draw fire

Wow. Talk about a test shocking the hell out of me. Just took the Which X-Man Are You? test at OKCupid and I came out...Cyclops. (blink) (blink). I guess this means I want to have sex with Jean Gray.

What they say about Cyclops:

Most of the civilized world will call you a pussy. They're right. You play it safe everytime, and have no problem with ordering others to their deaths while you take all the glory. You also get everything you want, because, even though you are a dickhead, you're really fucking smart.


Sheryl - Aug 05, 2004 2:38:27 pm PDT #5279 of 10000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

This amusing bit of animation popped up as a link on one of my newsgroups, so I thought I'd link it here: Green Lantern


DavidS - Aug 05, 2004 2:52:01 pm PDT #5280 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm Storm.

Impulsive yet good natured, Storm has the power to control just about every element on earth. Not that she needs to, because with a rack like that 90% of all males pretty much eat out of her hand. She's pretty daring but gets hurt alot, it's a good thing her friends always back her up, because she gets shot out of the sky in just about every fight.