To compensate, all her other Elseworlds appearances were even less tolerable than I normally find her.

Have you read Nine Lives?

I'm not sure how I feel about Talia. I keep trying and failing to make my mind up about that one.

Have you read Nine Lives?

That's the one where she's a madam, right? Or at least banging everyone in Gotham? Yeah -- that's the one I like the most.

My absolute most hated was the one where Batman is a vampire and she's a werecat. Dear lord.

She's a werecat? Bwahahahaha!

Is Batman the sort of vampire that turns into a bat?

Also v. funny.

We must make sure that nobody who works at a movie studio gets their hands on that story.

I'm not sure how I feel about Talia.

I don't, pretty much. R'as is hella cool, but Talia has always seemed like a perfectly stock sultry ambiguous femme fatale type -- in other words, like I'm supposed to find her utterly fascinating, but she's really not much of a character to me.

I don't, pretty much. R'as is hella cool, but Talia has always seemed like a perfectly stock sultry ambiguous femme fatale type -- in other words, like I'm supposed to find her utterly fascinating, but she's really not much of a character to me.

Bingo. That's kind of where I'm at. She almost had a personality in Death and the Maidens.

ita, yeah, she's a madame. Also, dead for the whole thing.

Is Talia the woman that Bruce married?

Jon -- sorry my question about Donna Troy wasn't really a question, I got distracted and forgot to reread it.

I think in The Titans Donna Troy is, at that point, made up of what Wally remembered of her because she was moving in and out of realities (???).

Then in the Titans title Donna Troy's son from the future (who I think is bad) went back in time to make sure that he was born and at some point in these comic books Donna was a 50 ft goddess.

I just want to know what the deal is with that.

I kind of like Pantha. At one point there's some kind of revelation about Mirage pretending to be Kory and Dick sleeping with Mir and Pantha's response is "Dick! You slut!"

I guess what I like most about Talia is her dad, and her apparent lack of concern with redemption. Catwoman seems to need to sustain that mystery all on her own (how bad is she?) and I never thought it worked. "I love my evil undead dad, c'mon let's have sex" does.

Talia

Ra's Al Ghul

Is Talia the woman that Bruce married?

IIRC, that whole storyline is no longer in continuity.

"I love my evil undead dad, c'mon let's have sex" does.

Except lately she's been more "I must escape my Evil Undead Dad, even though I still love him. Come, let me serve as your plot device."