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amych - Jul 28, 2004 7:49:41 am PDT #5091 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm not sure how I feel about Talia.

I don't, pretty much. R'as is hella cool, but Talia has always seemed like a perfectly stock sultry ambiguous femme fatale type -- in other words, like I'm supposed to find her utterly fascinating, but she's really not much of a character to me.


P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2004 7:52:09 am PDT #5092 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I don't, pretty much. R'as is hella cool, but Talia has always seemed like a perfectly stock sultry ambiguous femme fatale type -- in other words, like I'm supposed to find her utterly fascinating, but she's really not much of a character to me.

Bingo. That's kind of where I'm at. She almost had a personality in Death and the Maidens.

ita, yeah, she's a madame. Also, dead for the whole thing.


sumi - Jul 28, 2004 7:55:12 am PDT #5093 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Is Talia the woman that Bruce married?


askye - Jul 28, 2004 7:55:27 am PDT #5094 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

Jon -- sorry my question about Donna Troy wasn't really a question, I got distracted and forgot to reread it.

I think in The Titans Donna Troy is, at that point, made up of what Wally remembered of her because she was moving in and out of realities (???).

Then in the Titans title Donna Troy's son from the future (who I think is bad) went back in time to make sure that he was born and at some point in these comic books Donna was a 50 ft goddess.

I just want to know what the deal is with that.

I kind of like Pantha. At one point there's some kind of revelation about Mirage pretending to be Kory and Dick sleeping with Mir and Pantha's response is "Dick! You slut!"


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2004 7:57:30 am PDT #5095 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess what I like most about Talia is her dad, and her apparent lack of concern with redemption. Catwoman seems to need to sustain that mystery all on her own (how bad is she?) and I never thought it worked. "I love my evil undead dad, c'mon let's have sex" does.


Tom Scola - Jul 28, 2004 7:59:45 am PDT #5096 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Talia

Ra's Al Ghul


P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2004 8:46:34 am PDT #5097 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Is Talia the woman that Bruce married?

IIRC, that whole storyline is no longer in continuity.

"I love my evil undead dad, c'mon let's have sex" does.

Except lately she's been more "I must escape my Evil Undead Dad, even though I still love him. Come, let me serve as your plot device."


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2004 8:50:41 am PDT #5098 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Except lately she's been more "I must escape my Evil Undead Dad, even though I still love him. Come, let me serve as your plot device."

Yeah, Tom's link kinda made my eyes roll.

I'm somewhat saddened by some of the clear limits on heroic behaviour in the big names in comics. I mean, in the end, didn't every hero turn heroic in their Elseworlds appearances, even if they didn't quite start out that way?


sumi - Jul 28, 2004 9:32:04 am PDT #5099 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Is S.H.I.E.L.D. pretty much Homeland Security?

And re: Astounishing - Jean -- whoa -- why is her body in the hands of the alien and the geneticist? Did I MISS how that happened?

Re: Bats, I can see that the Bats story totally leads into War Games, but that was an unsatisfactory ending and are they really indicating the return of an actual grown up Jason?


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2004 10:45:46 am PDT #5100 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sumi, best bet is they're graverobbers.

Just read last week's Robin. I know the writing is looked down upon, but I don't know Steph at all, and only a little Tim. HATE the way Batman and Batgirl are written, though.