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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


P.M. Marc - Jul 14, 2004 1:51:27 pm PDT #4837 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Looking at October's previews and... WHY THE HELL ARE THEY LETTING WILLINGHAM TOUCH BATMAN???

Ahem.

Just had to get that out.


victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 2:07:06 pm PDT #4838 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Quick IC note: The narrator on the villains' sattelite is Merlyn the Archer, an old Green Arrow foe.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 4:03:21 pm PDT #4839 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you think that will have meaning later, Victor?

I just got the text on the front cover of Nightwing. I don't usually pay attention to the cover art until after I read ...

Do all the Ultimate titles do like X-Men and not show scenes, just character poses on the covers? They're very pretty. But the X-Men art is very pretty inside too, this month especially.

I realise I can't forgive the art because I need the art to support the mood of the words. Even when I skim a comic page, and lose narrative because I'm moving too fast (text or image narrative), I need the mood to work for me. The mood in UX is palpable -- when Angel faces Sinister, or when Rogue gets a bead on Sinister, I look at the picture first, get an impression, read the text, and then look at the picture again, as best I can break it down. If the get-impression stage is broken by clumsy articulation or mucky colouring, it's probably too late for me.


Steph L. - Jul 14, 2004 4:39:23 pm PDT #4840 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The Nightwing cover cracked me up. The story -- well, I felt like it was just filling time until the crossover starts.

Teen Titans #13 just fucking ruled. Shrift totally could have written the part where Kon goes to Gotham looking for Tim and is all pissed when he encounters Steph-as-Robin. It made me squee a little. I totally loved Raven getting a tattoo. I have no idea why that particular part of the issue grabbed me. But it did.

IC #2 -- verrrry intriguing. I read it, then re-read #1, and then read #2 again. And I still have no idea what's coming.


victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 4:40:38 pm PDT #4841 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Do you think that will have meaning later, Victor?

Possibly. It looks like tensions are set to boil between the heroes in villains--probably mostly in reaction to Sue's death and maybe the fact that multiple villains were lobotomized being discovered. I'd bet Merlyn's going to play a major role in there, somewhere.

Do all the Ultimate titles do like X-Men and not show scenes, just character poses on the covers?

"Iconic" cover art is all the rage right now.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 4:45:39 pm PDT #4842 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love the iconic look, except I have to pay extra attention to which titles I've already bought -- I have three duplicated Ultimate X-Men issues -- all Wolverine covers, because that's the sort of twitch I have.

In IC#2, I loved the Dr. Light is only NOW a moron explanation -- because I sure wasn't buying their fear of him. I thought the story was pretty horribly (as in well) done, and so was the tension it brought into present day. I can't wait to see who else has been neutered.

Unrelatedly -- in Nightwing, Dick gets a call, and in the last Batgirl (don't know when that came out), Batman ducks away for a second -- are those two related? I'm assuming with the multitude of Bat-titles each may have been explained elsewhere. What's the dealio?

Oh, and Batman has a pretty clear Rogue's Gallery profile -- his is the most distinctively patterned of the major heroes, isn't it? Apart from, I guess, the tendency for groups to face off with groups and solo or solo/henchman villains to go mano a mano with solo heroes.


victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 4:56:44 pm PDT #4843 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Ita said this spoilery thing: I can't wait to see who else has been neutered.

Me either, but I'd place good money on the Flash's Rogues Gallery.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 5:01:54 pm PDT #4844 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which kinda ties to my last wonderation -- does Flash's gallery share a similar profile? Like, are they dumber than most's?


CaBil - Jul 14, 2004 5:03:26 pm PDT #4845 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Oh, and Batman has a pretty clear Rogue's Gallery profile -- his is the most distinctively patterned of the major heroes, isn't it?

The Flash also has a fairly clear Rogue's gallery.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 5:09:15 pm PDT #4846 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What kind of clear?