What stuff, CaBil? All I see is speculation.
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§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 9:49:22 am PDT #4821 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 9:50:50 am PDT #4822 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Victor? Anyone? About this white Firestorm thing -- when did he last exist? The commenter doesn't mention that.
OK. But I gotta white font, because it's a bit spoilery. Not too bad, as I don't know the details, but a wee bit none the less.
Ronnie Raymond is currently Firestorm in JLA and Identity Crisis. HOWEVER, the JLA are supposed to confront the new Firestorm in FS #6 or so, which will both reveal Ronnie's fate and will be an Identity Crisis crossover.
So--short answer--the Firestorm comic is taking place a bit later than JLA and IC.
But Tim's dad knows he's Robin, which doesn't work, because he quit as soon as his dad found out. So maybe he's Robin *again,* and poor Steph got Jason Todded?
Possible, but the general consensus is that IC just had the broad strokes of the plan to work with, and everyone on that side thought there's be a gap between Jack Drake finding out about Tim and Robin quitting. So it's probably an honest goof.
§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 9:53:42 am PDT #4823 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Thanks, Victor. Are you caught up with Firestorm now?
victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 10:42:02 am PDT #4824 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Thanks, Victor. Are you caught up with Firestorm now?
Mostly. Seemed to have missed #2, but I think #3 caught me up to speed. What was your question again?
Gandalfe - Jul 14, 2004 10:46:10 am PDT #4825 of 10000
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
Firestorm
Was he the one who could, uh, do anything? Even more powerful than Superman?
§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 10:49:48 am PDT #4826 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Well, part of it was answered in #3 -- I'd wondered if he was going to be paired with the hoodlum guy. Guess that's moot. The other question is -- will he get a more permanent pairing, like last time, or just keep grabbing whoever's standing next to him?
victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 10:55:55 am PDT #4827 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Was he the one who could, uh, do anything? Even more powerful than Superman?
Uhm, I don't think so. Firestorm was a composite of then-teenager Ronnie Raymond and Prof. Martin Stein. A nuclear accidnet gave them the power to merge--Ronnie's body, Stein's mind, although it was a bitmore complicated than that really. When they were merged as Firestorm, they could fly and rearrange matter in nonorganic substances. Pretty damn powerful, yes, but perhaps not what you were thinking.
Ita, I still think Ronnie's in there, somewhere, like Prof. Martin Stein was, even after he died of cancer. And occasionally, Firestorm DID draw other people into the matrix, such as Mikhal Arkadin. Usually, there was some sort of nuclear reaction involved, but possibly things have changed.
§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 10:58:20 am PDT #4828 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The dead guy was named Ronnie, or do you mean the original Ronnie? So far he's pulled in someone different each time he went nuclear. It could be a thing.
victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 11:00:03 am PDT #4829 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I'm sorry. When I say "Ronnie," I mean the original Firestorm. The other people being added to the mix isn't normal, but not unheard of, either. Just happening a bit more frequently.
§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 11:02:03 am PDT #4830 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
So you're saying that the new Firestorm isn't even that new? That he's Ronnie and this kid and a random third party?