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Gandalfe - Jul 14, 2004 10:46:10 am PDT #4825 of 10000
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Firestorm

Was he the one who could, uh, do anything? Even more powerful than Superman?


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 10:49:48 am PDT #4826 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, part of it was answered in #3 -- I'd wondered if he was going to be paired with the hoodlum guy. Guess that's moot. The other question is -- will he get a more permanent pairing, like last time, or just keep grabbing whoever's standing next to him?


victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 10:55:55 am PDT #4827 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Was he the one who could, uh, do anything? Even more powerful than Superman?

Uhm, I don't think so. Firestorm was a composite of then-teenager Ronnie Raymond and Prof. Martin Stein. A nuclear accidnet gave them the power to merge--Ronnie's body, Stein's mind, although it was a bitmore complicated than that really. When they were merged as Firestorm, they could fly and rearrange matter in nonorganic substances. Pretty damn powerful, yes, but perhaps not what you were thinking.

Ita, I still think Ronnie's in there, somewhere, like Prof. Martin Stein was, even after he died of cancer. And occasionally, Firestorm DID draw other people into the matrix, such as Mikhal Arkadin. Usually, there was some sort of nuclear reaction involved, but possibly things have changed.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 10:58:20 am PDT #4828 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The dead guy was named Ronnie, or do you mean the original Ronnie? So far he's pulled in someone different each time he went nuclear. It could be a thing.


victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 11:00:03 am PDT #4829 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm sorry. When I say "Ronnie," I mean the original Firestorm. The other people being added to the mix isn't normal, but not unheard of, either. Just happening a bit more frequently.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 11:02:03 am PDT #4830 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So you're saying that the new Firestorm isn't even that new? That he's Ronnie and this kid and a random third party?


victor infante - Jul 14, 2004 11:19:18 am PDT #4831 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

More or less Ita. I'm betting that this is the new kid's mind and body, merged with Ronnie Raymond's mind and Firestorm powers. Ronnie may, however, be dormant for awhile, but there's definitely a connection between them because, well, check out the outfits.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 14, 2004 11:47:57 am PDT #4832 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Was he the one who could, uh, do anything? Even more powerful than Superman?

In one of my (otherwise) favorite pre-Crisis JLA/JSA team-ups, Firestorm was the one who took down Darkseid by making a curved funnel out of thin air that redirected his own Omega beams back at him.


Glamcookie - Jul 14, 2004 12:18:57 pm PDT #4833 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Another shout out for The Pulse. Awesome!


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2004 12:35:36 pm PDT #4834 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nice week, so far. IC -- excellent. Ultimate X-Men -- excellent. Teen Titans -- not half bad. I do feel kinda vaguely skeeved, so I guess it's time for Nightwing.