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§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 6:50:52 pm PDT #4769 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is Huntress a detective, particularly? In the Bats/Babs/Robin way?

Man, I'm failing to see how Batman, just by virtue of being Batman and not Bruce, hasn't suffered a break from reality.


P.M. Marc - Jul 13, 2004 6:54:03 pm PDT #4770 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Is Huntress a detective, particularly? In the Bats/Babs/Robin way?

Not so much.

Man, I'm failing to see how Batman, just by virtue of being Batman and not Bruce, hasn't suffered a break from reality.

It could be argued that he has, on occasion, suffered this break.

See: Batman: Ego; Bruce Wayne Murder & Fugitive...


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 7:00:24 pm PDT #4771 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm into book 5 now of NML, and it rocks.

I think I'm going to buy the Batgirl trades too. Now that I've discovered B&N has free shipping if I buy two or more at a time.

As much as I love NML, it doesn't make me want to add a Batman title to my roster, but Batgirl, yes. It's so very about him anyway, much more than Robin is about him. But it's not slacking on Batgirl, who I am totally fascinated by.


Michele T. - Jul 13, 2004 7:13:52 pm PDT #4772 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Man, I'm failing to see how Batman, just by virtue of being Batman and not Bruce, hasn't suffered a break from reality.

Batman is completely real, and deals with people in a realistic-for-comics way. Bruce realizes in Year One that he needs to look even scarier than he is as a defensive maneuver - the suit isn't what makes him the avenger , it's just the outward manifestation of it.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 7:23:13 pm PDT #4773 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Batman is completely real, and deals with people in a realistic-for-comics way

Of course he's real! How could he not be?

Part of my interest in the character is because I seem him as grimmer as most of the rest of the good guys and how they deal with people.

He deals with people effectively, I'm absolutely not going to deny that. But his effectiveness hinges on him approaching life with about one emotion, if that.


Michele T. - Jul 13, 2004 7:32:39 pm PDT #4774 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Then it's not a reality break. You can call him "emotionally stunted," but hey, the comic makes that critique itself.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 7:36:13 pm PDT #4775 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can and happily will call him emotionally stunted. I just think accepting it as appropriate shows a divergence from the standards of the universe he operates in.

From time to time, he swings further off, and, yeah, I see that as intermittent breaks.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 8:05:18 pm PDT #4776 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Unrelated to the unresolvable:

At the end of NML, Nightwing says he's heading over to see Oracle, Tim mentions kissing, and then we see him with Huntress instead. Where does NML fall in his relationship timeline?


Michele T. - Jul 13, 2004 8:17:33 pm PDT #4777 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Uh, that's fairly extensively covered in NML itself. Go back to his arrival at the clocktower near the end of NML -- it's a two or three issue sub-storyline.

ETA: Oh, do you mean does NML come after Nightwing/Huntress ? Because yes, it does. And I think those events are also referred to obliquely in the storyline I'm talking about.

We need a new spoiler policy. Spoiler-protecting stuff written in the 20th century feels silly to me.


shrift - Jul 13, 2004 8:24:03 pm PDT #4778 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I think I'm going to buy the Batgirl trades too.

Batgirl kicks ass, both literally and metaphorically. I recommend them, but I also have an insane love for Cass, so...

I have read the first three Powers trades, and now I have a raging crush on Detective Christian Walker. (I seem to have a weakness for good writing combined with a big, good-lookin', gruff detective guy who wears white button-down shirts with thin black ties and a shoulder holster. Oh, look, see this? This is a crush.)

Smart. Taciturn. Intimidating. Hmm. This sounds familiar...

Tomorrow, I'm picking up everything Plei's getting, plus:

  • Superman/Batman #11
  • Ultimate X-Men #49

Over 20 titles I'm following now. Dear GOD.