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CaBil - Jul 12, 2004 11:59:48 pm PDT #4734 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

DC solicitations are up for October, and there is a guest star in Outsiders that I can't believe

Highlight here for spoilers in Outsiders #17 John Walsh of “America’s Most Wanted” guest stars .


Tom Scola - Jul 13, 2004 3:57:11 am PDT #4735 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

From Metafilter:

Holy Shit.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 4:24:44 am PDT #4736 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, this is weird. What is the Platonic TPB for Superman? What's the Superman: Year One?


Tom Scola - Jul 13, 2004 4:28:50 am PDT #4737 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Superman: The Man of Steel, by John Byrne.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 4:38:12 am PDT #4738 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it good?


Tom Scola - Jul 13, 2004 4:47:02 am PDT #4739 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It's OK. It's John Byrne, and not even Byrne at his best.

His wanks about how Supes powers work are annoying, but his Lex Luthor is more Platonic than his Superman is.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 4:52:34 am PDT #4740 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmmm. I lent Red Son to a co-worker, and he came out of it wanting to know more about Superman (like where he's from, etc) -- it was totally a Batman story to me, so I'm at a loss.

So I'm looking for a Superman: Year One that's actually good, and that way I'll buy it and lend it to him. I currently have no little resentment towards Byrne. I'll flip through it in a bookstore and see.

Thanks!


victor infante - Jul 13, 2004 5:51:44 am PDT #4741 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Yeah, "Man of Steel's" not half bad, really. And it certainly served its purpose--to simplify and update Superman's origin.


Miracleman - Jul 13, 2004 7:19:33 am PDT #4742 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Yeah, "Man of Steel's" not half bad, really. And it certainly served its purpose--to simplify and update Superman's origin.

At the time I thought some of its little changes to the Pre-Crisis Superman canon were kinda neat...Clark being a football hero, rather than a nebbish all his high-school career. And some of it I thought was "Eh".

Dug the Batman/Superman first meeting in the series, but hated the villain of that issue.


victor infante - Jul 13, 2004 7:24:18 am PDT #4743 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I thought some of its little changes to the Pre-Crisis Superman canon were kinda neat...Clark being a football hero, rather than a nebbish all his high-school career. And some of it I thought was "Eh".

Yeah, the updates to Clark were really the biggest success there.