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§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 4:24:44 am PDT #4736 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, this is weird. What is the Platonic TPB for Superman? What's the Superman: Year One?


Tom Scola - Jul 13, 2004 4:28:50 am PDT #4737 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Superman: The Man of Steel, by John Byrne.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 4:38:12 am PDT #4738 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it good?


Tom Scola - Jul 13, 2004 4:47:02 am PDT #4739 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It's OK. It's John Byrne, and not even Byrne at his best.

His wanks about how Supes powers work are annoying, but his Lex Luthor is more Platonic than his Superman is.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 4:52:34 am PDT #4740 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmmm. I lent Red Son to a co-worker, and he came out of it wanting to know more about Superman (like where he's from, etc) -- it was totally a Batman story to me, so I'm at a loss.

So I'm looking for a Superman: Year One that's actually good, and that way I'll buy it and lend it to him. I currently have no little resentment towards Byrne. I'll flip through it in a bookstore and see.

Thanks!


victor infante - Jul 13, 2004 5:51:44 am PDT #4741 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Yeah, "Man of Steel's" not half bad, really. And it certainly served its purpose--to simplify and update Superman's origin.


Miracleman - Jul 13, 2004 7:19:33 am PDT #4742 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Yeah, "Man of Steel's" not half bad, really. And it certainly served its purpose--to simplify and update Superman's origin.

At the time I thought some of its little changes to the Pre-Crisis Superman canon were kinda neat...Clark being a football hero, rather than a nebbish all his high-school career. And some of it I thought was "Eh".

Dug the Batman/Superman first meeting in the series, but hated the villain of that issue.


victor infante - Jul 13, 2004 7:24:18 am PDT #4743 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I thought some of its little changes to the Pre-Crisis Superman canon were kinda neat...Clark being a football hero, rather than a nebbish all his high-school career. And some of it I thought was "Eh".

Yeah, the updates to Clark were really the biggest success there.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 13, 2004 7:42:25 am PDT #4744 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It seemed as if Byrne were using the George Reeves Clark Kent as his model, a choice that I heartily approved of.


Michele T. - Jul 13, 2004 8:43:06 am PDT #4745 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

The current reboot of Superman in Superman: Birthright will be out in HC at the end of the year.