Brad Meltzer, in Identity Crisis, upped the ante a bit by having Elongated Man say he's been a hero for nearly 20 years--which means Flash and the other original JLAers have also been active for about that long.

Though the Flash Ralph is with when he meets Sue is Barry, isn't it?

(Green Arrow, particularly, may well be over 40.)

How old is Connor supposed to be? I think Ollie's supposed to be older than his 40s, but in a body about a decade younger than he would have been if he'd lived.

Dinah should be in her 30s (mid to late), but we can always go "well, the whole Pit thing re-youthed her!" (She's what, 19? in JLA Year One?)

If Dick Grayson popped up in Bats' first couple years, though, he'd be in his early thirties. Which makes sense on one level, but not in the way he's portrayed. I'd put Dick at 23 to 25 or so.

We could always go by Robin Ages!

It makes as much sense as anything.

Dick's 19 or so when Bruce gets rid of him as Robin. Two or so years of Jason, putting Dick at 21 or so when 13 year old Tim Drake comes in and takes over. Of course, here's where things get tricky, because it would seem that Tim's only 16 *now*, and MAN, I hate when they give exact ages, the silly writers. Anyhow, that would make Dick about 24.

Eh, (waves hands), it's all approximate, no matter how much fun it is to attempt to place a logical framework around such things.

I don't care so much about how old any of them are *now*, so much as working out how long passed between milestone events. Trying to line up milestone events next to each other -- sheer insanity.

Dick as a 24-year-old I can live with -- we can say he's a mature 24-y-o because of everything he's been through. So he was with Kory for basically, 17-21? and then Babs from 22-24? For a man-ho, he's kind of a serial monogamist!

ita, how can you work out how long passed between milestones without trying to line them up? Like, "it's been xnum years since NML in current continuity"?

Like, "it's been xnum years since NML in current continuity"?

"Now" isn't a milestone event. And it hardly needs to be precise. But Bruce donning the cowl at 18 is very different from him donning it at 28. That's the sort of thing I like to have a sense of.

When Emerald Dawn came out more than a few years ago, it postulated a graying Hal Jordan as having been a super hero for 15 years (probably got his start within months of Superman and Batman emerging into the public eye).

I'm plowing through Batgirl (just finished #23), and I'm loving the things it's saying about Batman. I can't wait to find out if he's right about her or not. But I really think we've been shown he's not.

Okay, so I'm in love with Batgirl, and may start buying. What I hadn't realised is that when Connor says Cassie is his girlfriend he wasn't talking about Wonder Girl. Too confusing.

ita, he wasn't? Because in TT, it's pretty clear that they have the hots for each other.

Ah. You've hit that part. While there was a short flirtation between Conner and Cass, Conner is now with Cassie, because he is a simple, simple clone, and this way he won't forget any names.

I give up. I wasn't sure what that kiss meant as she was leaving Smallville.

Back to my original understanding then, lickety split. But has anything happened in TT between WG & SB? I thought BG was it because at least there's been the hint of stuff.

Oh! About Bruce Wayne, Murderer -- I gather it was Cain all along, but how did that play out in the comics that aren't BG? How did they work out who did it, and what's the status of Bruce Wayne in the real world right now?