Just read NML #1 -- good stuff. One leftover question--Leslie Thomkins explicates a fair amount of her history with Bruce, but how does she know about Batman?
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§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 7:47:36 am PDT #4560 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
victor infante - Jul 04, 2004 5:31:45 pm PDT #4561 of 10000
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Just read NML #1 -- good stuff. One leftover question--Leslie Thomkins explicates a fair amount of her history with Bruce, but how does she know about Batman?
This was actually the first time I'd seen the character, and I've yet to learn any real backstory on her, except that Bruce sees her as a sort-of mother figure. She may well have pieced it together on her own, but that's a guess.
Also, at people's recommendation, I picked up The Flash the other day, and quite enjoyed it.
Now, can someone please get me up to speed? Pardon the pun.
Also, unenthralling haul from the comic book store the other day--picked up Astonishing X-Men, which is still OK, and the new Firestorm, which is promising. Flash and Ultimate FF were definitely the stand-outs.
Avengers and Avengers/Thunderbolts were... OK. Just OK. Avengers is trying my nerves right now, and may go the way of JLA. And of course, I bought JLA #100, just to say I made it that far, and actually was midly interested in the story. Mildly. Didn't stop me from dropping the title from my pulls, though. May give JLA Elite a try. We'll see.
§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 5:35:05 pm PDT #4562 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm very curious about how this Firestorm is working -- Victor, do you see it as him merging with whoever's there when he flames on, or do you think this new guy is stuck with him?
Tom Scola - Jul 04, 2004 5:35:57 pm PDT #4563 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Leslie was there to look after Bruce on the evening his parents were killed.
She and Alfred are something of an item.
§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 5:38:00 pm PDT #4564 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Which reminds me -- how old was Bruce when his parents were killed? How old was he when he donned the mantle of the Bat? Is it assumed that he was Bruce Wayne up until that point, and then he became Batman and Bruce became the disguise? How did he pull off that switcheroo? I mean, pre-Bats Bruce was very serious and diligent.
Tom Scola - Jul 04, 2004 5:42:22 pm PDT #4565 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
how old was Bruce when his parents were killed?
Eight.
How old was he when he donned the mantle of the Bat?
Late 20s?
Is it assumed that he was Bruce Wayne up until that point, and then he became Batman and Bruce became the disguise? How did he pull off that switcheroo? I mean, pre-Bats Bruce was very serious and diligent.
The official canon is that Batman was born on the night that Bruce Wayne's parents were killed. Bruce Wayne is just a mask that Batman wears.
Tom Scola - Jul 04, 2004 5:49:20 pm PDT #4566 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 5:50:23 pm PDT #4567 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The official canon is that Batman was born on the night that Bruce Wayne's parents were killed.
But according to your numbers, he didn't put the suit on for around 20 years. So in that time Bruce Wayne was wandering around accumulating the things that would make Batman. Was he being a flake from then too? How does that mesh with all the book learning he was running around acquiring? Did he suddenly become a himbo? When did he know this would be necessary, to have a cover identity?
Tom Scola - Jul 04, 2004 5:55:20 pm PDT #4568 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
From the link above:
As the Waynes' bodies lay still on the cold pavement, young Bruce - then just ten years old - vowed to seek justice and apprehend his parents' vicious killer.
Funded by the Wayne fortune and enabled by the family's loyal valet Alfred Pennyworth, Bruce circumvented the restraints of foster care and embarked on a decade-long worldwide trek to learn all he needed to fulfill his promise. Teachers and mentors on both sides of the law taught Bruce the skills - from little-known martial arts to the latest detective processes - that he would use to hone his body and mind into a living weapon in what would eventually become an unrelenting war on crime.
It was a long-term plan.
§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 5:57:28 pm PDT #4569 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It was a long-term plan.
No, I get that. But what I'm asking is -- when did Bruce become a dilettante? Was the overachiever stuff being hidden all this time? How does a 12 year old do that?