Not even Batgirl,Teppy? Not even the next installment of Judd Winick's Batman story?

I haven't been reading either title, and I figure I should save up my money for next month's mega-colossal multi-title crossover.

I am about to reread The Dark Knight Returns, but when I was first trying comics as a snobby college student, I found it a lot less compelling as an argument for comics as literature than either Sandman or Watchmen, as witness the fact that I only really read more superhero comics last month. Just a datapoint.

Sweet Zombie Jebus, you *are* a pusher, aren't you?

Pimp.

You around tonight?

I'll be in your area to pick up my crack, and needs must return Pete's copy of Firestorm.

Finally! My library informs me that Cataclysm is waiting for me to pick up! I think I've been on the waiting list for at least 2 months.

It seems a little odd to be reading it *after* NML, but my library does not seem to realize that it's all about mememememe, and therefore lets other people check out whatever they want, without even thinking of whether Steph Lang might want it.

What are they thinking?

I found it a lot less compelling as an argument for comics as literature than either Sandman or Watchmen

Well, I'm not even sure what value judgments/other criteria I'm applying to the word "literature," but both Sandman and Watchmen cleave much closer to in in my eyes than pretty much anything in the general superhero arena -- Dark Knight Returns is a damned impressive piece of work, but I think I need a word that's not literature, but still implies worthy.

Storytelling.

Micole, you need to read Starman.

Micole, you need to read Starman.

Oh, yes.

When you're analysing a character mythos, one can't take every appearance into account, unless one has more time and money than I can imagine.

However, due to the medium-bound nature of any character's story, I think it would be pretty impossible to coherently process all the data for any character old enough to be interestingly complex. You do have to ignore bits of canon, don't you?

But how do you choose? What that was said about/by Batman/Wolverine/Cyclops counts, and what disappears? How authoritative can you be, and still make sense?

But how do you choose? What that was said about/by Batman/Wolverine/Cyclops counts, and what disappears? How authoritative can you be, and still make sense?

I think it's almost like the process that creates folk stories. The narratives which work best become most authoritative. You wind up discarding the stuff which wasn't effective or engaging with the proviso that you also need some distance in years so it doesn't impinge on anything currently happening. Ple was talking about how The Huntress kept getting reworked until she made emotional sense.