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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 29, 2004 10:41:07 am PDT #4318 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Though I suppose there's a conga line of Jean Grey clones out there somewhere that the Phoenix could be playing shell games with.

Now I've got a mental image of a whole bunch of Famke Janssen's doing the conga. As these things go, it's not unpleasant.


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 10:51:57 am PDT #4319 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does anyone know, when Maddy killed her almost-real self, which reality alterna!Maddy (as opposed to psionicmanifestation!Maddy) came from?


Kalshane - Jun 29, 2004 11:02:02 am PDT #4320 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Jean comes back to life
Scott leaves Maddy and Nate for Jean

Actually having read those recently, Scott and Maddy's marriage is going through difficulties, mostly due to Scott still wanting to be an X-Man and Maddy wanting him to live a normal life with his family. Scott learns Jean's alive and travels to see her. While there, the original X-Men try to persuade him to work with them in X-Factor. (They believe the X-Men have betrayed Xavier's dream by allying themselves with Magneto.) Scott waffles. He wants to be with his friends (and Jean) making a difference again, but he also has a family to look after. He works some cases with X-Factor. When he tries to call home, the line has been disconnected. When he tries to locate Maddy, all traces of her existance seem to have vanished. (The Marauders attacked, attempting to kill Maddy and kidnap Nathan. They are successful in the latter. Mr. Sinister meanwhile works to remove all records of Madelyne Pryor.)

Maddy comes to the X-Men to get him back

I think it's more like the inadvertantly run into her. While she's hospitalized from the original Marauder attack, maybe?

In any case, there's no contact between X-Factor and the X-Men. Each team thinks the other has betrayed Xavier. Scott is still unable to locate Nathan and Maddy. Then one night the X-Men, along with Maddy, "die" on national TV.

Then we get the really lame Goblin Queen storyline. Yay.

Not sure where in all this Scott and Jean get back together as I've only read X-Factor issues that were referenced directly in the Uncanny X-Men comics so far.

Didn't realize Cable was Nathan Summers. He's an even dumber character to me, now.


Thomash - Jun 29, 2004 11:31:05 am PDT #4321 of 10000
I have a plan.

And the last he saw of his kids they were jumping out of a plane with only one parachute between them.

Doesn't his father lead the Starjammers (?) They've seen a lot of each other.


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 11:32:32 am PDT #4322 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They've seen a lot of each other.

They have now. But Corsair was absent for childhood, adolescence, and the start of Scott's superheroing.


Thomash - Jun 29, 2004 12:00:34 pm PDT #4323 of 10000
I have a plan.

Abso-freakin-lutely true. I was just trying to say it wasn't the last he'd seen of his kids.

Do you suppose the odds of having a superhero lifestyle are proportionately larger if your parents are kidnapped by aliens?


DXMachina - Jun 29, 2004 12:01:36 pm PDT #4324 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Do you suppose the odds of having a superhero lifestyle are proportionately larger if your parents are kidnapped by aliens?

That, and if your home planet blows up.


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 12:05:35 pm PDT #4325 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just ended a conversation with a huge geek co-worker who's never read comics. "But they don't go into that sort of depth in the comics, surely?" he asked after I gave him my take on the Bat-psychosis, and how it helps explain Robin.

Der.

Now I have a compulsion to start buying trades for the express purpose of converting his sceptical ass.


Polter-Cow - Jun 29, 2004 12:09:44 pm PDT #4326 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"But they don't go into that sort of depth in the comics, surely?"

Oh, ita. If you were all healed, I'm sure you would have kicked his ass good.


P.M. Marc - Jun 29, 2004 12:44:08 pm PDT #4327 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

after I gave him my take on the Bat-psychosis, and how it helps explain Robin.

So, share it with the rest of us, or Nilly where you did so previously (because I wanna know, damn it).

"But they don't go into that sort of depth in the comics, surely?"

(Looks at Transference issues. Laughs and laughs and laughs.)

I am not nice. In addition to the Outsiders issues Pete requested, I threw in the Arsenal mini and a couple more trades (Evolution and Officer Down). Had I had more time, I'd have probably snuck some Young Justice in there as well.

Of course, Jilli is also evil. She passed over the Black Kiss series.

Heh.

Searching to see if Transference was ever collected as a trade got me this link on Batman and Post-Modernism.