Wesley: All right. I'm going to let you all in on something you may have trouble comprehending. I assure you however-- Gunn: Vampires are real. Wesley: I was telling!

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


CaBil - Sep 26, 2002 7:48:05 am PDT #43 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

So, what you're saying is that we should show up at Moline's house carrying implements of destruction and, er, encourage him to finish the artwork for the rest of Fray?

No, no, we should use the method that Japanese manga editors use to get pages out of their artists.

Lock him up in a hotel and slide food under the door in exchange for completed pages.

Edit, and yes, I am not kidding, well except for maybe the food part. Apparently this legal in Japan, or at least not prosecuted...


Jeff Mejia - Sep 26, 2002 7:53:11 am PDT #44 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Actually, I very much like the artist who does Fray, but he still hasn't finished the next issue, so...

Meanwhile, over at CrossGen, Karl Moline, the artist of Fray, just put out his four monthly issue of Route 666 on time. CrossGen uses the bullpen system, so it shows what a little whipcracking can do...

However, he will not make next month's issue, as Route 666 goes to a backup artist next month. This is a little unusual in CrossGen's titles; usually they don't go to the backup artists until month 6 or 7 of the run.

One thing I did notice at the end of the newest Buffy comic was that Scott Allie mentioned that they would collect Fray together in one volume, but he also said it should be "finished by the beginning of next year". It looks like the schedule has slipped even further than the 12/25/02 finish date that the website promises.


sumi - Sep 26, 2002 9:53:39 am PDT #45 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Yikes. (About Fray)

So I listened to OMWF on my stereo (rather than the cd/clock-radio that I had listened to it before.) Wow. . . and this time "Sacrifice" brought tears to my eyes.

But there are places where you miss the dialogue -- oh the crickets in "I've Got a Theory", the line about Buffy needing back-up in "Life's a show". . . that sort of thing.


lori - Sep 26, 2002 10:59:19 am PDT #46 of 10000

There also seems to be a bit of extra transition in Under Your Spell, during the time where W/T spun out of the park and into bed. Seems longer on the new soundtrack.


Amber B. - Sep 27, 2002 10:21:34 pm PDT #47 of 10000
I'm beginning to understand this now. It's all about the journey, isn't it?

Nice review of the OMWF soundtrack.

I did disagree with this, though:

Nevertheless, some dialogue exposition would have been meaningful. During the airing of the show, Buffy's song, "Something to Sing About" expresses her anguish about her removal from heaven and ends with her sister's spoken reminder that, "The hardest thing in this world is to live in it." Soundtrack listeners segue right into the next song. That spoken line marks one of the turning points in the show and the rest of the season. It is missed on the soundtrack. The listener is left to rely on her inner "Buffy" voice to chime in with the line when playing the song.

I didn't miss that line at all. To me, the two pieces of dialogue that should have been included were "She needs backup!" and "So you're a good demon? Bringin' the fun in?".


Jeff Mejia - Sep 27, 2002 10:41:37 pm PDT #48 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

I definitely agree with your points, Amber. I also really miss the tap sounds from Hinton Battle's dance that accompanied his song.

Also, from the article, could anyone make any sense of this sentence?

For serious Buffyphiles who haven't already purchased the soundtrack, they should (it's not clear that they haven't - the sound track was the second best musical seller on Amazon.com the day it was released).


Angus G - Sep 28, 2002 7:06:12 am PDT #49 of 10000
Roguish Laird

Nah--that's word salad.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 28, 2002 7:51:02 pm PDT #50 of 10000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I just got the Buffy CD, and am very happy with it... it sounded like they cranked up the background music in almost all the songs. It made Rest in Peace sound great, but I am sort of eh on the rest. Rest in Peace sounded a lot like it did in the promo, when we couldn't understand what the hell Spike was saying.

For some reason, perhaps just because it is not bootleg, I can really separate the voices in the group parts a lot better.

Also, is it possible that whoever did the lyric sheet has never done on e for a musical before? Usually when multuiple p[eople are singing different lyrics at the same time, they are laid out side by side. In these notes, they just go straight through, so in Walk through the fire, when Sweet is singing one part, Buffy another, and Spike & Scoobies yet another, the lyrics are just sort of jumbled together.


Steph L. - Sep 28, 2002 9:37:34 pm PDT #51 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Also, from the article, could anyone make any sense of this sentence?

For serious Buffyphiles who haven't already purchased the soundtrack, they should (it's not clear that they haven't - the sound track was the second best musical seller on Amazon.com the day it was released).

Made sense to me.


DXMachina - Sep 29, 2002 12:26:37 am PDT #52 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Also, is it possible that whoever did the lyric sheet has never done on e for a musical before? Usually when multuiple p[eople are singing different lyrics at the same time, they are laid out side by side. In these notes, they just go straight through, so in Walk through the fire, when Sweet is singing one part, Buffy another, and Spike & Scoobies yet another, the lyrics are just sort of jumbled together.

The other way I've seen it done is to use a vertical line to connect the simultaneous parts, but they didn't do that either, although to be fair, most of the parts aren't really simultaneous, but just overlap slightly.