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Theodosia - Jun 29, 2004 7:41:38 am PDT #4290 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Actually, Corsair didn't abandon his wife -- she was killed in front of him by the Shi'ar Emperor. And the last he saw of his kids they were jumping out of a plane with only one parachute between them.

I miss Rachel Summers. The Summers family reunions must be like The Ice Storm, only with superpowers and aliens included.


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 7:47:11 am PDT #4291 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Scott got abandonment issues anyway. He's good like that. It was a bit of a reconciliation process.

No need to miss Rachel. She's around.


DavidS - Jun 29, 2004 7:47:47 am PDT #4292 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I miss Rachel Summers.

Yeah, I was looking at one of my old X-men and it took me a second to remember her whole history with the psychic-hound alternafuture thing. Which was gloriously fucked up and interesting.


victor infante - Jun 29, 2004 7:53:59 am PDT #4293 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I miss Rachel Summers. The Summers family reunions must be like The Ice Storm, only with superpowers and aliens included.

She's back, in one of the X-books. The Summers family tree reads like a Stephen Hawkings essay.

Scott got abandonment issues anyway. He's good like that. It was a bit of a reconciliation process.

To be fair, that happens with a lot of children who lose their parents very early.


DavidS - Jun 29, 2004 8:00:49 am PDT #4294 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Summers family tree reads like a Stephen Hawkings essay.

Well, spell it out for me. Who's who and when does Jean resurrect?


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 8:01:10 am PDT #4295 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To be fair, that happens with a lot of children who lose their parents very early.

Dude, Scott could lose his dad in a mall today and sulk for weeks. Don't tell me he wouldn't.

The Summers family tree reads like a Stephen Hawkings essay.

Especially when you get to the bit where the aging Rachel raises her younger brother.

Or something.


Theodosia - Jun 29, 2004 8:05:18 am PDT #4296 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

And Cable fits in how?

(I hate Cable almost as much as I hate J---a R-----s.)


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 8:05:22 am PDT #4297 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

First stab at tree:

  • Scott & Jean get together
  • Jean "dies"
  • The Phoenix Force assumes her form, goes nuts, dies
  • Scott meets, marries, and impregnates her Sinister-grown clone
  • Nathan is born
  • Jean comes back to life
  • Scott leaves Maddy and Nate for Jean
  • Nate is kidnapped
  • Maddy comes to the X-Men to get him back

Somewhere in there is:

  • Rachel (kid of Scott and Jean) comes back from the future
  • Rachel is traumatised by there being a son before her
  • Rachel makes it so her future doesn't happen

Rachel also gets thrown way into the future along with a rescued Nate, who she raises, and then he comes back into our present and becomes Cable.

Jean sees a future in which her existence causes Beast to go Dark, so she commits suicide by Magneto.

Please to edit.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 29, 2004 8:08:53 am PDT #4298 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

First stab at tree:

Huh, makes the Master's bloodline look downright linear in progression. I mean, I knew some of that, but by no means all.


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 8:11:39 am PDT #4299 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I may have skimmed bits of the Cable stuff, because I dislike him too. And there's some residual Rachel bitterness, because she used to rock so hard, and they wasted her. But she's back now -- she was being used as a psychic battery or something by a baddie, and Kitty rescued her.

Although Jean wasn't actually Dark Phoenix, the Phoenix force hovers over and in both her and Rachel -- not sure if Cable's got any.