And Cable fits in how?
(I hate Cable almost as much as I hate J---a R-----s.)
Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.
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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.
Theodosia - Jun 29, 2004 8:05:18 am PDT #4296 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 8:05:22 am PDT #4297 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
First stab at tree:
- Scott & Jean get together
- Jean "dies"
- The Phoenix Force assumes her form, goes nuts, dies
- Scott meets, marries, and impregnates her Sinister-grown clone
- Nathan is born
- Jean comes back to life
- Scott leaves Maddy and Nate for Jean
- Nate is kidnapped
- Maddy comes to the X-Men to get him back
Somewhere in there is:
- Rachel (kid of Scott and Jean) comes back from the future
- Rachel is traumatised by there being a son before her
- Rachel makes it so her future doesn't happen
Rachel also gets thrown way into the future along with a rescued Nate, who she raises, and then he comes back into our present and becomes Cable.
Jean sees a future in which her existence causes Beast to go Dark, so she commits suicide by Magneto.
Please to edit.
Frankenbuddha - Jun 29, 2004 8:08:53 am PDT #4298 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
First stab at tree:
Huh, makes the Master's bloodline look downright linear in progression. I mean, I knew some of that, but by no means all.
§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 8:11:39 am PDT #4299 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I may have skimmed bits of the Cable stuff, because I dislike him too. And there's some residual Rachel bitterness, because she used to rock so hard, and they wasted her. But she's back now -- she was being used as a psychic battery or something by a baddie, and Kitty rescued her.
Although Jean wasn't actually Dark Phoenix, the Phoenix force hovers over and in both her and Rachel -- not sure if Cable's got any.
Holli - Jun 29, 2004 8:16:40 am PDT #4300 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore
Wow. Suddenly, the Bats look like a model of healthy, funtional interpersonal relationships.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 29, 2004 8:18:10 am PDT #4301 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
If I understand correctly, Jean absorbed her mainline connection to the Phoenix from Maddy via the Wrath of Khan-style suicide mindmeld the latter shared with her at the end of Inferno.
DavidS - Jun 29, 2004 8:20:02 am PDT #4302 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Rachel also gets thrown way into the future along with a rescued Nate, who she raises, and then he comes back into our present and becomes Cable.
Cable is the son of Scott and Maddy (who is the evil-raised clone of Jean?)? And raised by his half-sister (genetically full sister since Maddy's a clone) from an alternative future. Huh. See what happens when you don't look at comics for a decade. So, didn't Cable and Storm have a thing? If they'd married then Scott would be her father-in-law. Is Maddy gone now?
§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 8:21:36 am PDT #4303 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oh, yeah, and Sinister cloned Jean to make Maddy so she could be the Goblyn Queen who also apparently dies (along with other X folk) and then goes ballistic and tries to kill everyone. She may also sleep with Scott's brother at this time.
Madelyne also comes back as a psychic projection of Cable's, becomes independent of him, goes evil, goes good, ages when Cable weakens, and was killed by another version of herself.
Or something.
DavidS - Jun 29, 2004 8:23:38 am PDT #4304 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I thought Cable was native american. Where did I get that idea?
§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 8:23:49 am PDT #4305 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jean absorbed her mainline connection to the Phoenix from Maddy
How did Maddy get it, though? They kinda made that messy. If Jean was never Phoenix, why did Maddy get a connection?
didn't Cable and Storm have a thing?
I hope not. Not while I was reading, anyway.
Cable is the son of Scott and Maddy (who is the evil-raised clone of Jean?)?
Ayup. It's a family affair, for real.