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Mr. Broom - Jun 28, 2004 8:28:05 pm PDT #4281 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I like Emma's turning-to-diamond thing because, while it has its bonuses, it's not entirely practical. Genetic mutations aren't required to be practical, and I like that they're recognizing this more in recent years. Perhaps the most deus ex machina thing in X-Men has been that every mutant's mutation is directly beneficial for either fighting crime or perpetrating it. As someone who has an actual genetic mutation himself, I like the much more real idea that sometimes a mutation just is. Beak is a good example; dude looks like a half-chicken, half-human. He can kind of fly, but not well, and he doesn't have any other apparent useful upturns to his mutation. Done soapboxing now. Go about your business.


Mr. Broom - Jun 28, 2004 8:28:09 pm PDT #4282 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I like Emma's turning-to-diamond thing because, while it has its bonuses, it's not entirely practical. Genetic mutations aren't required to be practical, and I like that they're recognizing this more in recent years. Perhaps the most deus ex machina thing in X-Men has been that every mutant's mutation is directly beneficial for either fighting crime or perpetrating it. As someone who has an actual genetic mutation himself, I like the much more real idea that sometimes a mutation just is. Beak is a good example; dude looks like a half-chicken, half-human. He can kind of fly, but not well, and he doesn't have any other apparent useful upturns to his mutation. Done soapboxing now. Go about your business.


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 3:55:41 am PDT #4283 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Perhaps the most deus ex machina thing in X-Men has been that every mutant's mutation is directly beneficial for either fighting crime or perpetrating it.

The ones that figure into the plot, sure. But we get to see scads of mostly nameless secondary characters (think of many Morlocks, for instance, or Genoshans) who have nothing useful that they can do.

The X-Men is a self-selecting group, and so are their opponents.

And given that the diamond form makes her one of the strongest and toughest people on the team, it looks more practical than some of the other X-Mutation.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 29, 2004 6:54:00 am PDT #4284 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Tell that to Madelyne Pryor.

To be fair, "dying" on national television and then having no contact with your bereaved husband for months afterwards pretty much removes one's right to a "how could you?!?" reaction. I don't think Scott knew Maddy was alive until she went Goblin Queen on his ass. and Scott kept and raised Nathaniel, didn't he?


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 6:57:30 am PDT #4285 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"dying" on national television and then having no contact with your bereaved husband for months afterwards pretty much removes one's right to a "how could you?!?"

When did Madelyne do this? When Scott left her for Jean, she was alive.


victor infante - Jun 29, 2004 6:58:12 am PDT #4286 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

To be fair, "dying" on national television and then having no contact with your bereaved husband for months afterwards pretty much removes one's right to a "how could you?!?" reaction.

That whole story was a mess, wasn't it? I mean, Scott did go chasing after Jean when she turned up alive, even if they weren't romantically involved again at first.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 29, 2004 7:06:36 am PDT #4287 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

When did Madelyne do this? When Scott left her for Jean, she was alive.

I thought Scott didn't become romantically involved with Jean (again) until after Madelyne and the X-Men "died" fighting that lame Trickster adversary in Dallas, got sucked through Roma's Siege Perilous for an identity makeover, and relocated to Australia.


Gris - Jun 29, 2004 7:09:16 am PDT #4288 of 10000
Hey. New board.

And people wonder why I'm afraid to try to figure out the X-men continuity...

Think I'll stick with Astonishing and Ultimate, and just let my continuity issues slide...


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2004 7:11:46 am PDT #4289 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Here's the discussion, Matt:

Leaving your wife and kid? Why not?

Scott would never. He has issues about that. His father abandoned him and Alex and their mom to go superheroing about the galaxy.

I wasn't diving into sleeping with Jean. Just abandoning his family.


Theodosia - Jun 29, 2004 7:41:38 am PDT #4290 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Actually, Corsair didn't abandon his wife -- she was killed in front of him by the Shi'ar Emperor. And the last he saw of his kids they were jumping out of a plane with only one parachute between them.

I miss Rachel Summers. The Summers family reunions must be like The Ice Storm, only with superpowers and aliens included.