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P.M. Marc - Jun 27, 2004 9:22:11 pm PDT #4234 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Shrift, I've been making Insect Reflection level DC jokes for a fair while now.

Paul just pats me on the head.


Theodosia - Jun 28, 2004 5:25:02 am PDT #4235 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Um.. White Queen? When did she get the power to, um, change into diamond or whatever it was that she did in Astounishing #2?


Polter-Cow - Jun 28, 2004 5:27:09 am PDT #4236 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Unbeknownst to the X-Men, she and Scott have been married for quite some time, and it was their diamond anniversary.


CaBil - Jun 28, 2004 5:29:49 am PDT #4237 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

I think it was the Genosha massacre.

Did they every figure out who did it?


§ ita § - Jun 28, 2004 5:30:50 am PDT #4238 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There has been a lot of secondary mutation going on in the Marvel universe -- see Excalibur for Charles's worrying about it.


victor infante - Jun 28, 2004 5:53:21 am PDT #4239 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

There has been a lot of secondary mutation going on in the Marvel universe -- see Excalibur for Charles's worrying about it.

Yep and yep. Emma developed the new powers as a sort of "survival mechanism" when the Genoshan massacre hit.


Polter-Cow - Jun 28, 2004 5:56:33 am PDT #4240 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Emma developed the new powers as a sort of "survival mechanism" when the Genoshan massacre hit.

Maybe she'll give birth to a goddess in a few months.


Theodosia - Jun 28, 2004 6:06:39 am PDT #4241 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

t stifles Polter-Cow over in the corner Er... so what was the Genoshan Massacre, and was it anything like the one at Alice's Restaurant?


Michele T. - Jun 28, 2004 7:07:28 am PDT #4242 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

As I recall, what happened at Alice's Restaurant was a massacree. Totally different head.


CaBil - Jun 28, 2004 7:08:08 am PDT #4243 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Genosha was a island nation in the SouthEast Asian area, with a population in the millions, faintly based on Singapore.

Mutants were enslaved there and used for industrial purposes. Later the mutants rebelled and formed a mutant friendly state. Magneto ruled it for a while, I think.

Then the entire population of the island was mysteriously killed by violence/explosions.

For a while it was treated as a mystery who orchestrated the massacre of presumbly millions of people. Not sure if they ever revealed who it was.

I consider the most unlikely bit of the scearnio was that supposedly most other nations on Earth yawned and wrote it off, basically because it was just mutants. In reality the fact that someone or something could mysteriously kill millions of people without revealing their identity would scare and piss off virtually every nation on Earth, if for no other reason that one of their enemies may figure out how to do it to them...