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CaBil - Jun 28, 2004 7:08:08 am PDT #4243 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Genosha was a island nation in the SouthEast Asian area, with a population in the millions, faintly based on Singapore.

Mutants were enslaved there and used for industrial purposes. Later the mutants rebelled and formed a mutant friendly state. Magneto ruled it for a while, I think.

Then the entire population of the island was mysteriously killed by violence/explosions.

For a while it was treated as a mystery who orchestrated the massacre of presumbly millions of people. Not sure if they ever revealed who it was.

I consider the most unlikely bit of the scearnio was that supposedly most other nations on Earth yawned and wrote it off, basically because it was just mutants. In reality the fact that someone or something could mysteriously kill millions of people without revealing their identity would scare and piss off virtually every nation on Earth, if for no other reason that one of their enemies may figure out how to do it to them...


§ ita § - Jun 28, 2004 7:11:25 am PDT #4244 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Was it modelled on Singapore? I'd thought it was an island South Africa.


CaBil - Jun 28, 2004 7:18:37 am PDT #4245 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Probably took aspects of both.

For instance, the Singapore aspects I noticed was the emphasis on production (via use of mutants) to be part of the world economy, social control of the entire society and the idea of a modernized, rapidly growing society remininscent of Hong Kong and the Four Tigers.

From South Africa, they borrowed aspects of Apartheid, a militarized society and mutant only areas/'homelands.'


sumi - Jun 28, 2004 7:19:34 am PDT #4246 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Teppy -- I love the tiny Teen Titans! I want them too.


Michele T. - Jun 28, 2004 8:22:00 am PDT #4247 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Michele T. - Jun 28, 2004 8:22:19 am PDT #4248 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Has anyone read Selena's Big Score, the Catwoman TPB? My digital copy choked and died about 2/3rds of the way in, and I just want reassurance if I go buy a paper copy that the ending doesn't suck.


P.M. Marc - Jun 28, 2004 8:42:01 am PDT #4249 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Has anyone read Selena's Big Score, the Catwoman TPB? My digital copy choked and died about 2/3rds of the way in, and I just want reassurance if I go buy a paper copy that the ending doesn't suck.

Yes, and I don't recall the ending sucking, but I'll have to check when I get home, because I bought it during phase one of my comics addiction.


Hayden - Jun 28, 2004 9:37:17 am PDT #4250 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Not knowing anything about X-Men continuity, I thought that the Genoshan massacre occurred when Xavier's psychic twin Cassandra Nova unleased several skyscraper-sized feral Sentinals at Genosha, killing some 16 million mutants. Emma was one of very few survivors, mainly because of the secondary mutation.


victor infante - Jun 28, 2004 10:59:56 am PDT #4251 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Not knowing anything about X-Men continuity, I thought that the Genoshan massacre occurred when Xavier's psychic twin Cassandra Nova unleased several skyscraper-sized feral Sentinals at Genosha, killing some 16 million mutants. Emma was one of very few survivors, mainly because of the secondary mutation.

Yeah. It was right at the beginning of Grant Morrison's run on "New X-Men." No mystery about it.


CaBil - Jun 28, 2004 11:09:28 am PDT #4252 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Oops, been a while. I read some of the follow up issues in other series, but not the actual issue itself.

Several skyscraper sized feral Sentinels killing 16 million people?

Do you have any idea how long that takes? Hrm, maybe I should hunt down those issues, the logistics of it seem wonky. Then again, it is Grant Morrison...