Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.

'The Train Job'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Michele T. - Jun 14, 2004 8:16:27 pm PDT #3788 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Of course the other critique I've seen of Identity Crisis you might call the Gail Simone one, which is out there in spades along with the fanboy one.


victor infante - Jun 14, 2004 8:18:05 pm PDT #3789 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Which titles do you read, out of curiousity?

I'm in transition, but basically, I'm reading Identity Crisis, Outsiders, JSA, Green Arrow, Teen Titans, Fables, Promethea, various Hellboy stuff, various X-Men stuff, Swamp Thing and Ultimate Fantastic Four.

I'm also reading Avengers and Justice League, but their stock with me is plummeting.

Lastly, reading the Authority, Planetary and Starman in trades, which is mildly frustrating, as Starman's been FINISHED for three years and there's at least one more graphic novel left. Maybe two.

Also, do you happen to know/recall how long this was in the making/planning? Because it seems like a 'verse-wide leitmotiv coming to a head, and I'm wondering how coordinated that was.

Usually these things are planned at least a year in advance, often more. (Which may explain the minor continuity errors that popped up in IC, like Tim Drake running around as Robin after his father learns his secret, or Capt. Atom being alive (which can be explained away, as it's Capt. Atom, and he's done that before.

I drift in and out of BoP. Don['t know why. Also, been meaning to pick up Flash again.


victor infante - Jun 14, 2004 8:21:21 pm PDT #3790 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Of course the other critique I've seen of Identity Crisis you might call the Gail Simone one, which is out there in spades along with the fanboy one.

And I can't say they don't have a point, really. Still, not undercutting my enjoyment of the story, though.


P.M. Marc - Jun 14, 2004 8:23:31 pm PDT #3791 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, I left off the "Things I Read in Trade for to Catch Up" category.

Which is basically Starman, Planetary, JLA, and maybe a couple of others.


Polter-Cow - Jun 14, 2004 8:23:45 pm PDT #3792 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I just have to say I'm enjoying the whitefont, cause damn. Like I said, it made me want to buy the fucking issue right then and there, and I never buy issues. This is a trade I might buy new, though.


victor infante - Jun 14, 2004 8:31:54 pm PDT #3793 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Yeah, I'm too hooked to wait for the Trades on this. Bad enough waiting for Starman.


Polter-Cow - Jun 14, 2004 8:38:04 pm PDT #3794 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, I'm too hooked to wait for the Trades on this.

In case it wasn't clear, I have read it. Just haven't bought it.


victor infante - Jun 14, 2004 8:39:52 pm PDT #3795 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

In case it wasn't clear, I have read it. Just haven't bought it.

Heh. I get it.


P.M. Marc - Jun 14, 2004 8:41:36 pm PDT #3796 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

And I can't say they don't have a point, really. Still, not undercutting my enjoyment of the story, though.

Oh, totally, on both counts, though in a case where you're needing a death like this, I can't think of a male character who'd have been effective. Sort of like killing Tara.

Reading my older titles (my Spider-Woman collection, for example) is often an exercise for my wince muscles. Comics have come a long way in how they portray women.


victor infante - Jun 14, 2004 8:48:10 pm PDT #3797 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Yeah. The problem with the IC death is that it had to be someone who knew a LOT of people, and someone who's significant other had a public identity made it a media event in the DC universe. The Atom's ex-wife might have worked, but she's not been around much lately (Sue and Ralph have been active in Starman, Formerly-Known-As-the-Justice-League and others.) Someone like, say, Pa Kent might have done the trick, but most super heroes don't know Supes' identity, so you're left with a Superman story, or at best, a JLA story. Ditto for Tim Drake's dad. I think WOnder Woman has an SO, but I'm not sure. Anyway, they're probably all targets now, anyway. :)