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victor infante - Jun 13, 2004 2:05:57 pm PDT #3756 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Or possibly just all three of them in a bunk in some future issue?

I think it may be headed that way. It's difficult to say which one of them has nailed the most superheroes/heroinnes.

Let's look at the score sheet:

Nightwing: Starfire, Huntress, Oracle.

Arsenal: Grace, Huntress, Wonder Girl (Donna Troy). Chesire (super-villain.)

Grace: Arsenal, Green Arrow, Plastic Man.

OK. Who am I missing?


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2004 2:07:32 pm PDT #3757 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When did Arsenal boff Donna? Before Terry?


P.M. Marc - Jun 13, 2004 2:09:05 pm PDT #3758 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

See, from looking at that, Grace totally needs to do Huntress.


victor infante - Jun 13, 2004 2:20:39 pm PDT #3759 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

When did Arsenal boff Donna? Before Terry?

Well after Terry. During the Devin Grayson run of Titans. They were a couple for a good long while, actually.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2004 2:22:28 pm PDT #3760 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ahhh ... during my Titans, Suck! period. Thanks.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2004 3:00:45 pm PDT #3761 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can someone give me some basic background on Spoiler? What's her family situation, and how did she get (almost) good enough to be Robin?


Steph L. - Jun 13, 2004 3:02:15 pm PDT #3762 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Her father is the villain the Cluemaster, and I think she became the Spoiler to try to stop him.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2004 3:10:29 pm PDT #3763 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks, Steph. Did he get stopped?

Also, who fathered her kid? Is the kid in stories? Who does she live with now?


Steph L. - Jun 13, 2004 3:11:42 pm PDT #3764 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I'ma let the more obsessed field those questions, as I have no idea. All I know is that Robin isn't her baby daddy.


Polter-Cow - Jun 13, 2004 3:13:53 pm PDT #3765 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I read Batman: Year One in Borders. Interesting to have it focus almost more on Gordon than on Batman himself. I didn't realize Gordon was so much of a fully realized character in the Batverse.

I was kind of disappointed that it didn't really show the transition from Bruce to Bats. There's some of that in the first issue, but the rest are more about his getting accustomed to the mechanics of being Batman, with little of the why.