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§ ita § - Jun 13, 2004 2:22:28 pm PDT #3760 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
§ ita § - Jun 13, 2004 3:00:45 pm PDT #3761 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Can someone give me some basic background on Spoiler? What's her family situation, and how did she get (almost) good enough to be Robin?
Steph L. - Jun 13, 2004 3:02:15 pm PDT #3762 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Her father is the villain the Cluemaster, and I think she became the Spoiler to try to stop him.
§ ita § - Jun 13, 2004 3:10:29 pm PDT #3763 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Thanks, Steph. Did he get stopped?
Also, who fathered her kid? Is the kid in stories? Who does she live with now?
Steph L. - Jun 13, 2004 3:11:42 pm PDT #3764 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I'ma let the more obsessed field those questions, as I have no idea. All I know is that Robin isn't her baby daddy.
Polter-Cow - Jun 13, 2004 3:13:53 pm PDT #3765 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I read Batman: Year One in Borders. Interesting to have it focus almost more on Gordon than on Batman himself. I didn't realize Gordon was so much of a fully realized character in the Batverse.
I was kind of disappointed that it didn't really show the transition from Bruce to Bats. There's some of that in the first issue, but the rest are more about his getting accustomed to the mechanics of being Batman, with little of the why.
Steph L. - Jun 13, 2004 3:16:39 pm PDT #3766 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Interesting to have it focus almost more on Gordon than on Batman himself.
I thought the same thing when I read it.
There's a similar Gordon-heavy vibe in No Man's Land, IMO.
DXMachina - Jun 13, 2004 3:24:10 pm PDT #3767 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I thought the same thing when I read it.
It made sense to me, because if you're going to show the transition of the untrained vigilante to the Bat, you need to show how and why he became accepted by the PTB at the Gotham police. And that part is all about Gordon.
Polter-Cow - Jun 13, 2004 3:27:06 pm PDT #3768 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I thought the same thing when I read it.
And it was totally confusing because the first "voiceovers" are his. I had to go back and re-read when I realized there were two different visual styles for the two characters, which I thought was a pretty awesome idea. But you always expect the initial narration to come from the title character, you know?
There's a similar Gordon-heavy vibe in No Man's Land, IMO.
Ooh. And while it's been over a year, I don't recall Dark Knight Returns to be like that. It was incredibly Bat-centric, and most of the Gordon scenes were media-type things; he didn't have a real storyline like he had in this one.
CaBil - Jun 13, 2004 4:03:32 pm PDT #3769 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.
Also, who fathered her kid?
Unknown I believe. Well, unknown to us at least. An unknown boyfriend before she and Robin became an item
Is the kid in stories?
Given up for adoption. No mention of him/her since.
Who does she live with now?
Her mother, though she did move out of the house for a brief period of time recently after learning of her father's death.
Cluemaster's current status is dead, killed in the first issue of the latest incarnation of the Sucuide Squad. It was reunion episode of the old JL Antartica crowd.
That was about 2-3 years ago real-time, but there are now some hints that he is around in Flash, I believe.