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§ ita § - May 29, 2004 8:26:20 pm PDT #3291 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For future reference, who's the team? I'm assuming that Teen Titans and Batman Beyond aren't in the loop -- those are the only ones I've seen, bar a Harley Quinn ep of Batman. It seemed very different.


DavidS - May 29, 2004 8:30:46 pm PDT #3292 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

For future reference, who's the team?

Paul Dini is the main guy, I think. Batman Beyond is in continuity with the Batman Animated series. They refer to it a lot and have all kinds of fab continuity details. I think Teen Titans would be out of that continuity though.


Holli - May 29, 2004 8:32:33 pm PDT #3293 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

(xpost, of course)

For future reference, who's the team?

Paul Dini and Bruce Timm, I think are the guys.

I'm assuming that Teen Titans and Batman Beyond aren't in the loop

On Teen Titans, nobody even has a secret identity-- Robin's just Robin, and lord knows if the boy even has *eyes*. But I *think* Batman Beyond is in the same 'verse as the rest of the Batman and Superman 'toons. Someone on LJ was talking about how Bats and Robin have guested on a couple of episodes of Static Shock. In one of them Static was bouncing around in time, and at one point ended up in the Batman Beyond Batcave, with Terry and cranky old Bruce. Which would mean that (spoiler for Batman Beyond) *horrible things* are going to happen to Tim .


CaBil - May 29, 2004 8:33:54 pm PDT #3294 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Well, remember that this episode is the last episode with this team. Starting next season, they are planning to have a rotating cast of characters...


§ ita § - May 29, 2004 8:35:26 pm PDT #3295 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

this episode is the last episode with this team

But you're talking characters, right? I was assuming Michele meant creative team.

Now I have to see if I can work out why I thought Batman Beyond wasn't in continuity. Hmm.


Holli - May 29, 2004 8:35:49 pm PDT #3296 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Starting next season, they are planning to have a rotating cast of characters.

Yeah, they showed a preview of it over the credits for "Starcrossed." I'm ambivalent-- on the one hand, less character development. On the other, Green Arrow! Yay!

These are the dilemmas of a fangirl.


CaBil - May 29, 2004 8:41:12 pm PDT #3297 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

And Atom, Firestorm, LSH, Fate, Zatanna, the New Gods and lots, lots more...

Dini is a lot less involved in the new season...


Holli - May 29, 2004 8:46:27 pm PDT #3298 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

And Atom, Firestorm, LSH, Fate, Zatanna, the New Gods

Well, hey, with that list, that's like fifty-fifty odds of not sucking!

Wait, there are ninety-seven thousand people in the goddamn Legion. They're worse than the Potentials. There goes next season.


§ ita § - May 29, 2004 8:47:15 pm PDT #3299 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The New Gods are also cheesy. In fact, who off that list do you like?

I'm curious to see how Firestorm and Flash get along.


CaBil - May 29, 2004 8:51:22 pm PDT #3300 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

They will focus on different characters every episode, Holli. The LSH will only be around for one episode.

Atom, Firestorm and Zatanna all can be handled well. In fact, Warren Ellis is writing the Atom episode, which gives it great cred. Dini is supposedly writing a Zatanna episode, and considering his obvious love of the character, and the way he handled her in the comics, also shows that it has promise.