Joe Staton did the pencils, PMM.
Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?
Xander ,'End of Days'
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§ ita § - May 29, 2004 11:28:33 am PDT #3264 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
P.M. Marc - May 29, 2004 11:31:43 am PDT #3265 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Danke.
Mala - May 29, 2004 11:51:04 am PDT #3266 of 10000
Random squee-ing from somebody way late to the game...
Reading Batgirl: Year One for the first time. My thoughts: Babs is the hottest hottie ever to wear a mask, Babs/Dick is the OTP of the Batverse (they are snarky, smirking fun), and my gosh do I love this girl. Must read all Babs material Right Now.
amych - May 29, 2004 12:36:06 pm PDT #3267 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Gris - May 29, 2004 1:28:30 pm PDT #3268 of 10000
Hey. New board.
Just read The Killing Joke. Good. Liked the ending.
Atropa - May 29, 2004 2:29:57 pm PDT #3269 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
I would like to state for the record that I blame Plei and Shrift. It is All Their Fault.
There I was, standing in the looooooong line at the local Value Village, my basket full of black lacey, mesh, ruffly goodness. The endcap right by where I was standing was full of comic books, all for 49 cents. I glanced, and saw that one of them said Nightwing.
I now have Nightwing 86-90. Plei, you better loan me 91-93.
The endcap was full of what looked to be fairly current Robin, Green Lantern, JLA, Detective Comics, Batgirl, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Spiderman, Spidergirl, Hawkman, and various X-titles I didn't recognize. Kinda battered, but 49 cents an issue.
P.M. Marc - May 29, 2004 3:41:19 pm PDT #3270 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
91-93 will wing their way to your house tonight.
I'm cackling, btw. Sorry about that.
Holli - May 29, 2004 3:58:47 pm PDT #3271 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore
Okay, who watched Justice League tonight?
Because, EEEEEEEEE.
Someday, I will look back on this as the day that comic books characters wholly and irrevocably ate my brain.
GL/Hawkgirl ! secret identities ! Alfred ! "That's. Not. HELPING." ! Flash hugs !
So, so smitten.
Tom Scola - May 29, 2004 3:59:09 pm PDT #3272 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Well, Justice League was pretty awesome.
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Didn't they already reveal their secret identities in the first season?
DavidS - May 29, 2004 4:02:34 pm PDT #3273 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Speaking of art, No Man's Land 2 was giving me whiplash from the extreme range of quality and style in the art. Yeesh.
Read The Long Halloween which I enjoyed quite a bit. I can see why folks didn't get all het up and schmoopy over it, but it is a great work of mythos building, doing a fantastic job of transitioning from Frank Miller's (and Mazzuchelli's) gritty Batman Year One to the freakshow Gotham we know and love. Harvey Dent's story was the perfect pivot for that.
The reason Batman Year One is so essential to the current bat mythos and has been so influential has less to do with Batman himself than Gotham. Miller gave Batman a reason to exist that hadn't been there since the thirties. In short, he made Gotham deeply corrupt so that Batman was something other than a vigilante. He was essential. This is such an obvious and regular part of the mythos now, it's difficult to recapture how radical this was at the time.
I also mulled over Batfam titles. Marvel's key breakthrough in the sixties was (I think) Spider-Man, where they fully embraced the notion of teen angst as Nobody Really Understands Me (no really, because I'm superpowered and special and different from the rest). This was such a powerful myth that Joss and the WB recycled it whole.
X-Men's huge popularity in the 80s and after was essentially the same myth updated.
But reading The Long Halloween, it was clear that Gotham's players have a different core myth. Which is (obviously): We're all deeply damaged and fucked up. It's there in all the villains being grotesque physical manifestations of various mental breakdowns. It's clearly there in Batman, Nightwing, Oracle, Huntress and the various Robins. Actually it's a bit more like We're All Deeply Fucked Up (but we're still fighting). Anyway, it's a very appealing myth in a different way from the Marvelverse.