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Holli - May 24, 2004 12:39:44 pm PDT #2984 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Green Arrow Connor

Ooh. This has potential.

Really, my only criteria for Dawn-boyfriends is that they fight crime. I just think it'd be *fun*.


DavidS - May 24, 2004 9:30:53 pm PDT #2985 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't recommend the early Marv Wolman/George Perez stuff in Titans, which went a long way toward defining him as Kid Flash (Plus, the wicked weird Kid Flash/Raven romance.)

Wolfman/Perez are also responsible for establishing the Nightwing identity as we know it today. Plus the Judas Contract kicked ass and is in TPB.

I think there's limited superhero comic analysis for a variety of reasons. Comics Journal is actively anti-superhero, and until recently the larger story arcs didn't sustain the kind of mythos which breeds fic.

The exception would be X-Men stuff, which was (in its time) the nearest equivalent to what Batman Family is doing now. (That is - completely redefining an entire comic company in its image and spinning off a berjillion titles and mini series.)

Also, I bought No Man's Land and add my Damn You All to the pile.


P.M. Marc - May 24, 2004 10:02:26 pm PDT #2986 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Dude, David, did you get 1-5?

You needs you some Cataclysm. Yes you do.

Err. Pimp hat does not come off.


amych - May 25, 2004 1:34:54 am PDT #2987 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I bought No Man's Land and add my Damn You All to the pile.

Muahahahahaha!


DavidS - May 25, 2004 5:33:01 am PDT #2988 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Dude, David, did you get 1-5?

You needs you some Cataclysm. Yes you do.

Yeah, I probably do. Btw, Virgin Megastore in NOLA had Robin Year One on sale for 75% off. If you're near a Megastore you might want to swoop through their graphic novels section and see if you can find some bargains. I probably should've picked it up for the Buffista Comics Library.

I've only got No Man's Land 1 so far, though the rest is inevitable I expect.


Micole - May 25, 2004 5:46:57 am PDT #2989 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I just had a boatload of comics stuff come in at my library. Which I can't pick up for two weeks. Curse you, wee Plei. I will need to console myself with manga and anime.

Is this the place to inflict with manga and anime ravings? Are we giving in and declaring this Comicsverse, or should I shut up and/or take it to natter


Steph L. - May 25, 2004 5:50:15 am PDT #2990 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Micole, I think we bullshit consensed that this is Comicsverse, inclusive of all media -- print, TeeVee, movies, etc.


P.M. Marc - May 25, 2004 5:58:28 am PDT #2991 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, I probably do. Btw, Virgin Megastore in NOLA had Robin Year One on sale for 75% off. If you're near a Megastore you might want to swoop through their graphic novels section and see if you can find some bargains. I probably should've picked it up for the Buffista Comics Library.

Heh. Closest one is in Canada.


sfmarty - May 25, 2004 6:10:39 am PDT #2992 of 10000
Who? moi??

Not sure where to put this, but here is a letter I received. My appolgies if this has already been said. --------------- Hi again,

TV Guide has as its cover story this week "The 25 Top Cult TV Shows". _Buffy_ weighs in at #4.

Some interesting news about the next TV season from Ain't It Cool News:

To (mostly) recap, here's where the former Buffyverse writers have landed
so far:
Jeff Bell (Joss Whedon's co-writer on the spectacular just-aired "Angel"
series finale) is headed to "Alias."
Liz Craft & Sarah Fain (they scripted Hamilton's introduction in the
five-star "Underneath") have been asked to join "The Shield."
Steve DeKnight (he co-scripted the hilarious Italy-set "Angel" that aired
two weeks ago) is headed to "Smallville."
Jane Espenson ("Earshot," "The Replacement," "I Was Made To Love You"),
who worked on both "The O.C." and "Gilmore Girls" last year, is joining
"Tru Calling."
Drew Goddard (DeKnight's co-writer on "The Girl in Question") is headed to
"Alias."
Drew Z. Greenberg ("Him," "The Killer in Me," "Empty Places"), who was
scripting "Smallville" last season, is joining "The O.C."
Rebecca Rand Kirshner ("Help," "Touched"), a "Freaks & Geeks" vet who was
on "Las Vegas" this season, is joining "Gilmore Girls."
Doug Petrie ("As You Were," "End of Days"), who worked on both "Tru
Calling" and an aborted "Lost in Space" series for the WB this season, is
said to be taking the year off from TV next season to work on movie
projects (Petrie, some will recall, wrote "Harriet the Spy" and drafted an
early screenplay for "The Fantastic Four").
Buffyverse mastermind Joss Whedon, who wrote more "Angel" teleplays this
season than ever before, is directing the big-screen "Firefly" movie,
"Serenity."

Jane Espenson's joining "Tru Calling" is a good sign, methinks...

And finally, a tidbit which might indicate that the Buffy animated series may indeed live after all:

In the Thurs. May 20th edition of the Atlanta Journal Constitution, in the
"Peach Buzz" section where they talk about local celebrities, they
interviewed Alyson Hannigan's (she's originally from Atlanta) mother Emile
Posner, about an accident that happened in the audience during her
performance of "When Harry Met Sally"
As a side note at the end it reads:
'Hannigan's many "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" fans, take note: According to
Posner, who recently visited her daughterin London, the actress is
reprising her role of Willow. While Posner was in town, Hannigan was
recording some voice work for an upcoming "Buffy" animated series.'


Polter-Cow - May 25, 2004 6:19:49 am PDT #2993 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Jane Espenson's joining "Tru Calling" is a good sign, methinks...

Possibly. Doug Petrie's episodes weren't any better than usual.

Rebecca Rand Kirshner ("Help," "Touched"), a "Freaks & Geeks" vet who was on "Las Vegas" this season, is joining "Gilmore Girls."

That's pretty cool. As I was going through my DVDs, I remembered liking most of her episodes and wondering why she wasn't as popular as some of the other writers.

I checked IMDb to see which episodes she wrote, and oh. Not a bunch of great ones, but she did do "Tabula Rasa."