Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Frankenbuddha - May 22, 2004 1:31:39 pm PDT #2962 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The Killing Joke?

Although if you Arkham Asylum, I'd guess you'd already read TKJ.


Gris - May 22, 2004 1:41:56 pm PDT #2963 of 10000
Hey. New board.

Actually, no. I probably should. Added to my list.

ETA: I am far too excited about the smoochies that just occurred in Batgirl: Year One. This is going to be bad, I tell you.


Mala - May 22, 2004 1:54:56 pm PDT #2964 of 10000

Ooooh, this is a good list/set of suggestions. I am just getting into this universe and have been trying to find the best starter set to get me going. Is there an essential set of Birds of Prey books that I need to read to get the post-Batgirl Oracle story, or should I just start working my way through the series?


amych - May 22, 2004 2:37:42 pm PDT #2965 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

There's a terrific Oracle (as distinct from Batgirl) origin in Batman Chronicles no. 5. However, as it's one I have in cyber form, I'm not sure how easily available it is on paper.


Caterpillar Drive - May 22, 2004 5:36:37 pm PDT #2966 of 10000
Tonight, I am the Law.

I personally loved the Miller's interpretation of the Batmobile in Dark Knight Returns. Now that's respectin' authoritay.


Polter-Cow - May 22, 2004 6:21:27 pm PDT #2967 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I read Nightwing/Huntress in the comic book store today. It seemed like an excuse to get Nightwing and Huntress to hook up. I mean, there was a decent detective story surrounding the sex, but that was pretty much it.

So should I read Cataclysm before No Man's Land? What about Contagion and Legacy? They seem to all follow one another. And is it okay to read the post-NML Nightwing (Darker Shade of Justice) without having read any of those?

Every time I go to the comic book store, they're always there: NML #2 and #5. THAT DOESN'T HELP ME, DAMMIT!


P.M. Marc - May 22, 2004 10:15:46 pm PDT #2968 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So should I read Cataclysm before No Man's Land? What about Contagion and Legacy? They seem to all follow one another. And is it okay to read the post-NML Nightwing (Darker Shade of Justice) without having read any of those?

Contagion and Legacy are pre-Cataclysm. Read them first, if you need to read 'em. They're useful, but not essential. Nightwing's life in the 'haven starts right after that. Cataclysm and NML are essential, though I think you can kind of get away with reading the novelized version of the latter if you can't find all the trades.

Is there an essential set of Birds of Prey books that I need to read to get the post-Batgirl Oracle story, or should I just start working my way through the series?

She's pretty firmly established as Oracle by the time BoP starts. After a minor Green Arrow binge this weekend, I'm re-thinking my list of pre-BoP must-reads to include Longbow Hunters for some Dinah backstory, but in any case, I think you can start with the first BoP trade and work from there.

In other comics news, venturing out of Gotham can be dangerous. I am cursing Winick. It's his fault. The only reason my Green Arrow binge can be counted as minor is that my GL binge in the last several hours has been three trades and about 7 individual issues.


Volans - May 23, 2004 6:13:00 am PDT #2969 of 10000
move out and draw fire

I mean, there was a decent detective story surrounding the sex

Dammit. I hate when comics outshine my actual life.


Mala - May 23, 2004 6:32:29 am PDT #2970 of 10000

I'm re-thinking my list of pre-BoP must-reads to include Longbow Hunters for some Dinah backstory, but in any case, I think you can start with the first BoP trade and work from there.
Thanks! I fear this may turn into an expensive habit. *adds Longbow Hunters to "read some day" list*


sumi - May 23, 2004 6:33:18 am PDT #2971 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Polter-Cow - won't your comic shop order NLM 1, 3 & 4 for you?