We killed a homeless man on this bench. Me and Dru. Those were good times. You know, he begged for mercy, and you know, that only made her bite harder.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


sumi - Sep 25, 2002 2:52:22 pm PDT #29 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

And the music from Hush? - - very scary.


victor infante - Sep 25, 2002 2:53:39 pm PDT #30 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Song most improved on the CD?

"The Parking Ticket Song."


sumi - Sep 25, 2002 2:54:07 pm PDT #31 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Absolutely - - you could hear the whole thing.


Glamcookie - Sep 25, 2002 3:19:58 pm PDT #32 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

The music from The Gift is just heartbreaking. I remember when they played a bit of it in last year's opener, I teared up just hearing it!


Jeff Mejia - Sep 25, 2002 7:06:45 pm PDT #33 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Note to Self - Do NOT let Mejia talk you into buying this one...

Don't worry, DX. I have the new issue, and you have nothing to worry about. I will only say this until Sunday - The Scourge is on the art cover. That should be enough to help anyone decide whether or not to buy the book.

[Edit - Grammar.]


arby - Sep 25, 2002 7:18:14 pm PDT #34 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

re: OMWF - it sounds like they rerecorded the whole thing - understandably, to get rid of the SFX from the ep - which would be OK except that a) some of the background music is noticeably different - the twiddly little guitar bit in "Standing" (under "But now I understand") is gone, which I particularly liked, and also the tempo of the first fast part of "Give Me Something To Sing About" appears to be off or something, maybe this is how Joss originally wanted it, but I liked the episode version better, and b) the vocal performances are not as good in some cases (NB's part in "I'll Never Tell"; the "I know/I should go" part of "Rest In Peace" sounds off to me). But the backing instrumentation for the most part is much better in terms of mixing & volume, etc., so I'm torn. I wish I could remix it using the best parts of both.

Also the fact that I only have a downloaded (bootleg) copy right now may have something to do with it. I am going to buy it but do not want to pay $18.99 at HMV, so will probably order online for $11 or so.


Betsy HP - Sep 25, 2002 7:29:14 pm PDT #35 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

My OWMF hasn't showed. Dammit.


Betsy HP - Sep 25, 2002 9:18:48 pm PDT #36 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

A friend of mine got a copy of the Buffy novel guidelines. In case you were wondering why tie-ins are so bland:

CONTINUITY:

Our series currently takes place in an alternate sixth season storyline. That is:

--Buffy has recently returned from the dead and is still adjusting to life.

--Buffy’s mother Joyce is dead

--Riley is gone, as is Giles.

--Anya is a vengeance demon again, but not practicing. She and Xander are barely speaking.

--Spike and Buffy are not “together”, though there is lots of tension.

--Dawn is an innocent pawn, for whom Buffy feels tremendous love and maternal instinct; they still behave like sisters from time to time.

--Spike is moping around with a chip in his head and a soft spot for Buffy, but doing his part to fight—only because he likes to fight and he can only fight the bad guys right now.

--Buffy had dropped out of college to take care of Dawn and earn a living; Buffy was a good college student in the end and sort of misses it; talks about going back.

--Willow is a powerful Wicca who occasionally flirts with the Dark Side of majicks. She and Tara broke up over this, though they all still run into and talk to Tara.

--Angel (along with Faith, Cordelia and Wesley) is not in these stories, but may be referred to.

Note: Violating this continuity is only done by express permission of the editor. A first-time Buffy author should not submit a proposal based on a different continuity. Send a query letter first.


esse - Sep 26, 2002 12:33:39 am PDT #37 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Well, this is a little beyond time frame, but the public library has a couple of Buffy comics. I picked up "Past Lives," the graphic novel by Chris Golden and Tom Sniegoski from 2001.

What crack was smoked when this was written?

I was really kinda jazzed after I read the introduction -- it sounded as though it would be really good. But the plot had holes a Mack truck could drive through, and the artwork was hit and miss, and dear lord why does Angel look like a pop star pretending to be a biker?

See, it could have been really good. And maybe I just haven't been in the world of comics enough to really have a good idea of what a story's supposed to be like. But honestly, there was no lead in. It was all about getting Buffy and Angel in the same room. The plot was secondary -- I had no clue it was Angelus when he first appeared in the story. No little box to tell me it was the eighteen hundreds. I thought we were still in the present day. There were maybe two cells where Buffy looked like herself -- one where Cordelia was drawn properly. Giles and Wesley were twins. Probably because they're English. Had the artist ever actually seen Quentin Travers? And why did Giles keep saying "Indeed?" I mean, British, but really.

And Alexa.

Please.

Yeah. What did you guys think of it when it came out?


CaBil - Sep 26, 2002 2:34:12 am PDT #38 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

It was a reprint of crossover of the Buffy/Angel comic. Different artists, I think.

Short version. Bleah.

Longer version. Golden's writing voice just never seems to fit the characters. He tends to a more pulpy style of action.

And fundamentally, DH has never managed to get decent artists, either due to their pay rates and/or licensing issues.

Thus the reason that the Buffy comic is consistently ranked in the 110-120 range of best selling titles, when it should be much, much higher.