Fred: It's the pictures in my mind that are getting me. It's like being stuck in a really bad movie with those Clockwork Orange clampy things on my eyeballs. Wesley: Why imagine? Reality's disturbing enough.

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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Steph L. - May 12, 2004 4:25:00 am PDT #2670 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Teppy, have you read Batman: Cataclysm? 'Cause in that one, you get to see how Gotham got fucked up, and it's terrifying.

I also have that one requested from the library. (My library SO rules, yo! Although Plei is making me want to read BoP, and they have none.)

Fortunately, NML #1 has a little explanation at the beginning of why Gotham is suddenly devastated and no longer US territory.

It's seriously canon? That's so fucking COOL.


shrift - May 12, 2004 4:35:49 am PDT #2671 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

It's seriously canon?

Yep. It spills over into at least the Nightwing and Robin titles, and probably others. (Plei? D'you know?) It's also where they introduce the new Batgirl.


amych - May 12, 2004 4:41:16 am PDT #2672 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

It's seriously canon?

Yep. I'd cuss about how its canonicity is fucking with that story I keep failing to write, only it's such incredibly cool canon.


Volans - May 12, 2004 5:23:28 am PDT #2673 of 10000
move out and draw fire

Porniest Super Hero Name List

OK, I guess this is going to have to be the next topic of conversation.

Apparently I'm way too Marvel/Indy/Alternative. From DC, I only ever liked the Batstuff. All in all, I can buy into heroes who have a darker side, or an unwilling side, or are vigilantes far easier than I can buy into the Golden Age types.

Guess that's why Buffy worked for me.


sumi - May 12, 2004 6:20:55 am PDT #2674 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I need NML3 next.

I really enjoy it and can't wait to see what happens next and how the heck they start rebuilding.


P.M. Marc - May 12, 2004 6:39:21 am PDT #2675 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Apparently I'm way too Marvel/Indy/Alternative. From DC, I only ever liked the Batstuff. All in all, I can buy into heroes who have a darker side, or an unwilling side, or are vigilantes far easier than I can buy into the Golden Age types.

But, pretty much all DC stuff right now seems to have that. Except perhaps Supes, which they've admitted is a small issue.

Even the sweeties are messed up.

Yep. It spills over into at least the Nightwing and Robin titles, and probably others. (Plei? D'you know?) It's also where they introduce the new Batgirl.

Continuity pages probably has a list of all the NML related titles. I don't know off the top of my head. I will say, however, again, that the novelization is excellent. Most of my quibbles were minor, and I want Rucka in Babs' head all the time.

Yep. I'd cuss about how its canonicity is fucking with that story I keep failing to write, only it's such incredibly cool canon.

You know, I can see how the canon could actually serve that story you're not writing. Whoa. Umm. Yeah. Seeing ALL sorts of parallels here between what you're doing, NML, Jason... Heh. Err. We maybe should talk.

Teppy, have you read Batman: Cataclysm? 'Cause in that one, you get to see how Gotham got fucked up, and it's terrifying.

Oh, hell. I'm having horrible shuddering flashbacks to the One Part I Try Skipping. That was some incredible writing in there.

It's NEW COMIC DAY!!!

And, pathetically, this is a crosspost. BUT... Nightwing #93, Batman #627, and Gotham Central #19. If you're looking to start Gotham Central, this is a good place, because #19 starts a new arc. I still recommend getting 1-18, as it's an incredible book. But. If you can't. Start now.

Batman, as many of you know, has Winick on it now. This is only his second issue. 626 has me cautiously eager.

Nightwing #93 fills me with the sort of dread that only the conclusion to an incredible arc can. I suspect it will probably be good. I also suspect it will *hurt*. On the bright side, then I can re-read the whole arc thrice weekly.


Polter-Cow - May 12, 2004 6:41:59 am PDT #2676 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

If you're looking to start Gotham Central, this is a good place, because #19 starts a new arc.

Maybe I will. Angelo (my pusher) recommends it highly as well.


sumi - May 12, 2004 6:42:27 am PDT #2677 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I think that NML must include BoP -- because it has Huntress. (At least parts 1 & 2 have Huntress -- does she have her own comic?)

Cataclysm has Catwoman -- I wouldn't be surprised if NML included her too.

I think it affected the entire Bats Family.


Steph L. - May 12, 2004 6:43:19 am PDT #2678 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

At Half-Price Books yesterday, I managed to snag Robin 1-4 for 75 cents each. This is post-Knightfall, when Jean-Paul is still playing Batman. Good? Bad? Indifferent? Should I regret wasting those $3?

It's NEW COMIC DAY!!!

Teen Titans 11, bay-bee.

If you're looking to start Gotham Central, this is a good place, because #19 starts a new arc. I still recommend getting 1-18, as it's an incredible book. But. If you can't. Start now.

Temptress.


Polter-Cow - May 12, 2004 6:43:33 am PDT #2679 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Goddamn, now I'm really itching to read NML.

At Half-Price Books yesterday

Where are you? I miss Half-Price. They don't have them up here.