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§ ita § - May 11, 2004 8:20:43 am PDT #2568 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Funny how, for Cyclops, the more idealized role comes easier than the more realistic one.

That's because he's an ass.

Still -- Storm, Jean, Beast, Colossus -- heroes all, no?

This is would be Hellboy, too. Right?

I always felt comic Hellboy was a hero. But my heroimeter is a bit broken.


Miracleman - May 11, 2004 8:20:59 am PDT #2569 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I'm now thinking that ita meant "Atlantean compatriots".

If I recall correctly, Aquaman, being half-human, can stay out of the water longer than his fellow Atlanteans. I don't remember if other Atlanteans can talk to fish like he does.


Frankenbuddha - May 11, 2004 8:21:09 am PDT #2570 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Not quite up there with the Submariner, but so close.

Not as big an asshat, certainly. Namor's a prick; Aquaman's only a tool.


§ ita § - May 11, 2004 8:22:06 am PDT #2571 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm now thinking that ita meant "Atlantean compatriots".

Doesn't compatriot mean fellow-people-from-where-you're-from?


Miracleman - May 11, 2004 8:23:56 am PDT #2572 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Main Entry: com·pa·tri·ot
Pronunciation: k&m-'pA-trE-&t, käm-, -trE-"ät, chiefly British -'pa-
Function: noun
Etymology: French compatriote, from Late Latin compatriota, from Latin com- + Late Latin patriota fellow countryman -- more at PATRIOT
1 : a person born, residing, or holding citizenship in the same country as another
2 : COMPEER, COLLEAGUE

I was going by the second definition. In which case the League counts as "compatriots". And since we were talking about "superheroes", the context led me to that.

I now see that you meant the first definition.


victor infante - May 11, 2004 8:25:32 am PDT #2573 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

That's because he's an ass.

Heh. And there's a commentary on super-herodom, right there.

Still -- Storm, Jean, Beast, Colossus -- heroes all, no?

Certainly.

I always felt comic Hellboy was a hero. But my heroimeter is a bit broken.

Hellboy? Maybe, maybe not. He's kind of more of a good-natured paranormal cop. He's a good guy, and heroic, certainly, but at the end of the day, it's mostly just a job.


Miracleman - May 11, 2004 8:26:54 am PDT #2574 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Not as big an asshat, certainly. Namor's a prick; Aquaman's only a tool.

Hee! Can't really argue that.

Still loved how Aquaman beat Namor in the Marvel vs. DC cross-over.


§ ita § - May 11, 2004 8:27:08 am PDT #2575 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. Did not know about that second meaning.

I mean, I did know that Aquaman could do things the other Leaguers couldn't, what with the Aqua- and all. But I do wonder about aliens, et al. Do other Tamaranians just not care about heroics? Or Earth? That sort of thing.


§ ita § - May 11, 2004 8:28:01 am PDT #2576 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Certainly.

Then why are the X-Men a grey area (no pun intended) if most of their members are superheroes?


Miracleman - May 11, 2004 8:29:44 am PDT #2577 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Do other Tamaranians just not care about heroics? Or Earth? That sort of thing.

Good question. I'm not sure why Starfire would want to fly around and save people. But she does.

One of the (many and conflicting) Hawkman origins had Hawkie as a Thanagarian cop who came to Earth as a spy or something and fell in love with Earth and humanity and vowed to blah blah hero blah blah cookies.