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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Kiba Rika - May 11, 2004 6:04:11 am PDT #2535 of 10000
I may have to seize the cat.

PMM, maybe you have very high quality spirit gum or something. Folks I knew using it had a real hard time breathing, but maybe that's because the masks actually covered their noses with only itty bitty nostril holes to breathe out of.


P.M. Marc - May 11, 2004 6:06:43 am PDT #2536 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

PMM, maybe you have very high quality spirit gum or something. Folks I knew using it had a real hard time breathing, but maybe that's because the masks actually covered their noses with only itty bitty nostril holes to breathe out of.

Nah, just Ben Nye. It's probably the covering of the nose causing the problems. I can't breathe with things over my nose like that, spirit gum or no.


Jon B. - May 11, 2004 6:34:31 am PDT #2537 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

PMM, maybe you have very high quality spirit gum or something. Folks I knew using it had a real hard time breathing

Isn't it used all the time for mustaches? Which are, y'know, right under the nose.


§ ita § - May 11, 2004 6:37:10 am PDT #2538 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jon, what kind of freak ass moustaches are you thinking of?


P.M. Marc - May 11, 2004 6:37:52 am PDT #2539 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

An ass moustache is nowhere near the nose.


Jon B. - May 11, 2004 6:50:57 am PDT #2540 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Jon, what kind of freak ass moustaches are you thinking of?

The fake kind, used by actin' folk.


Frankenbuddha - May 11, 2004 7:19:18 am PDT #2541 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

If a beard has come to mean what it has, has moustache got a comparable secondary meaning?

Random aside: ARTHUR! My moustache is touching my BRAIN!!!!!


Miracleman - May 11, 2004 7:26:14 am PDT #2542 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Hmmm....interesting.

I saw, sort of, two different discussions under one header going on here. I will state my position. YPMV.

Comics

Not all comics are superhero, natch. The majority of them are (or were) but there are many kinds. Superhero, western (rare), romance...

Comics are the medium, not the content.

Types of Heroes within "superhero" comics

Superheroes: Must have extra-human power or resources. Be it Superman stuff 'cause he's from Krypton, Hawkman 'cause he's a hawk-god/alien cop/mutant throwback, Aquaman 'cause he's from Atlantis, or Green Lantern because he's got the ultimate cosmic weapon. They use these powers for good (thus the "hero" part).

Vigilantes: Humans with above average attributes or resources, but not the unachievable levels of either that a "super" hero can bring to the fore. Examples include Batman, Punisher, Hawkeye, Green Arrow.

There are, of course, some that you could argue fit on either side. Constantine has magic (extra-human power), but otherwise he's not all that "super" and arguably heroic.


victor infante - May 11, 2004 7:31:17 am PDT #2543 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm interested in knowing who else you think is both super and heroic but not a superhero.

Much time later... more caffeine...

I think the difference, for me at least, lies somewhere in being the idealized version of a hero.

On the other hand, I think characters that AREN"T super-heroes but have many of the same attributes are, generally, more interesting.


§ ita § - May 11, 2004 7:31:38 am PDT #2544 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

otherwise he's not all that "super"

Which is begging a question -- is Zatanna all that super? Dr. Strange? All the other sorceror types?