I'd swear there's something in one of my comics about how Nightwing keeps the mask on, but I'm probably smoking crack.

It's some special adhesive that Batman or the WayneTech scientists developed. Need a special solvent to remove the mask.

Of course, this doesn't explain why Nightwing's mask just flew off in TT/YJ Graduation Day, but I suspect I'm not supposed to put that much thought into it.

PMM, maybe you have very high quality spirit gum or something. Folks I knew using it had a real hard time breathing, but maybe that's because the masks actually covered their noses with only itty bitty nostril holes to breathe out of.

PMM, maybe you have very high quality spirit gum or something. Folks I knew using it had a real hard time breathing, but maybe that's because the masks actually covered their noses with only itty bitty nostril holes to breathe out of.

Nah, just Ben Nye. It's probably the covering of the nose causing the problems. I can't breathe with things over my nose like that, spirit gum or no.

PMM, maybe you have very high quality spirit gum or something. Folks I knew using it had a real hard time breathing

Isn't it used all the time for mustaches? Which are, y'know, right under the nose.

Jon, what kind of freak ass moustaches are you thinking of?

An ass moustache is nowhere near the nose.

Jon, what kind of freak ass moustaches are you thinking of?

The fake kind, used by actin' folk.

If a beard has come to mean what it has, has moustache got a comparable secondary meaning?

Random aside: ARTHUR! My moustache is touching my BRAIN!!!!!

Hmmm....interesting.

I saw, sort of, two different discussions under one header going on here. I will state my position. YPMV.

Comics

Not all comics are superhero, natch. The majority of them are (or were) but there are many kinds. Superhero, western (rare), romance...

Comics are the medium, not the content.

Types of Heroes within "superhero" comics

Superheroes: Must have extra-human power or resources. Be it Superman stuff 'cause he's from Krypton, Hawkman 'cause he's a hawk-god/alien cop/mutant throwback, Aquaman 'cause he's from Atlantis, or Green Lantern because he's got the ultimate cosmic weapon. They use these powers for good (thus the "hero" part).

Vigilantes: Humans with above average attributes or resources, but not the unachievable levels of either that a "super" hero can bring to the fore. Examples include Batman, Punisher, Hawkeye, Green Arrow.

There are, of course, some that you could argue fit on either side. Constantine has magic (extra-human power), but otherwise he's not all that "super" and arguably heroic.

I'm interested in knowing who else you think is both super and heroic but not a superhero.

Much time later... more caffeine...

I think the difference, for me at least, lies somewhere in being the idealized version of a hero.

On the other hand, I think characters that AREN"T super-heroes but have many of the same attributes are, generally, more interesting.