Having just watched my first TT animated series since I learned who the hell any of them are --

That's got to be Dick Grayson as Robin, because it's basically the 1980s line-up of the Titans. Starfire, Raven, Cyborg, Beastboy, and Robin.

Also, Trigon is voiced by Keith Szarabazka (sp?), better known here as Captain Holtz. As I said to myself when I read the voice credits list, it's nice to know he's not in danger of being typecast as an evil father-figure, eh?

Actually, Michele, he's not anyone. To wit:

And just who is under the mask? Is it Tim Drake? Dick Grayson? Jason Todd?

"He's just Robin. We never say which Robin he is. To be honest we've never even discussed it," [Sam] Register [Cartoon Network VP] said. "Again, that's for clarity for the kids. We're not doing alter egos."

Batman did mention in one of the Batman: The Animated Series crossovers with Static Shock that Tim Drake-Robin is a member of the Titans. But since B:TAS isn't the same continuity as the Teen Titans cartoon, that doesn't mean much.

"Again, that's for clarity for the kids. We're not doing alter egos."

Yep. I just checked and I'm still just as irritated by this statement. Because the average seven-year-old is going to be hopelessly and crushingly confused by the idea of a secret identity that the mundane world doesn't know about.

This is the shit that ruined Snuffleupagus, and don't think I'm not still bitter.

This is the shit that ruined Snuffleupagus, and don't think I'm not still bitter.

Eh, I was always pissed that nobody believed Big Bird about that dude. I just wanted them all to see him for themselves and shut up. Which they did. Rock on. :)

That was in the very first episode of the series, when the JL was formed.

Ah-ha. That must have been what I saw last night.

Sooooo. Teen Titans cartoon. Which Robin is that?

ita provided the official answer to this. As others have pointed out, the animated Robin shares most of his similarities with Dick Grayson (the 80's lineup, the future as Nightwing, the crushing between him and Starfire).

The main reason there's some question is because he looks like Tim, as far as age and general appearance (they draw him rather like they drew Tim on the Batman/Superman cartoons).

This is the shit that ruined Snuffleupagus, and don't think I'm not still bitter.

LOVE AMYCH!

Plus, when did Superman and Batman meet? Was Clark still in college when he became Superman, and Batman was already around?

In the comic continuity? Yeeps. Not sure... too much continuity.

Well, unless they changed it again Post-Crisis...which they may well have done...

Bats and Supes first meet Post-Crisis in John Byrne's "Man of Steel" mini-series (#3 IIRC). Supes flies to Gotham to capture Batman because he doesn't much approve of Batman's "vigilantism" *coughpotkettleblackcough*. Bats outwits Supes fairly handily while they team up to capture the lamest villainess ever, a "deadly thief" type named Magpie.

The main point of this issue was to set up the adversarial-but-grudging-respect attitude between Bats and Supes that prevails to this day. Other than the bits where Bats mentally outperforms and generally pimp-slaps the shit out of Supes, it's an "eh" story.

One interesting thing that SA's question brings up, though, is...did Clark go to college? In the John Byrne re-telling, Clark leaves Smallville after high-school (and telling Lana "Yo, I can fly an' junk!" Meh.) and spends a couple years doing "angel of mercy" stuff anonymously around the world before he's caught on tape saving a crashing space-plane with Lois aboard. Right after that he snags his job at the Planet. But...while he was off being an anonymous do-gooder, did he manage to go to college?

If anyone knows...

Other than the bits where Bats mentally outperforms and generally pimp-slaps the shit out of Supes, it's an "eh" story.

I love that. Bats doesn't think too highly of Clark's brain, and prefers him naive. That way, Clark will never see it coming when Bruce has to kill his alien ass (which I'm pretty sure Bats considers not a question of if, but when....).

So, I read a random smattering of DC TPBs this weekend (the selections were based solely on what the library had):

Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia (she beats up on Batman in this one)
New Teen Titans -- Terror of Trigon
Batman: Year One
Batgirl: Silent Running (this is Batgirl III, and it's a little freaky to me, plus, it's the first time I've really thought that the Batman is a great big prick)

Next up:

Batman: The Killing Joke
Batgirl: A Knight Alone

And I'm waiting on:

Robin: Year One
Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying