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Sue - Apr 14, 2004 3:09:25 pm PDT #1656 of 10000
hip deep in pie

With a big caveat that it has bugs. Lots of bugs.

Ooops. He has a serious bug phobia.


P.M. Marc - Apr 14, 2004 3:36:24 pm PDT #1657 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

ita: yes.


Kalshane - Apr 14, 2004 5:47:23 pm PDT #1658 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Got 1602 #8 today. Thought it was pretty good and the ending was interesting. Also reserved a copy of Astonishing X-Men #1, whenever it comes out.


P.M. Marc - Apr 14, 2004 5:53:23 pm PDT #1659 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

On Victor's rec, I got the first Outsiders trade.

I have just hit the point where Lex Luthor, being tortured by the Joker, taunts Joker about Batman liking Catwoman more. A: I think I like this. B: I think my jaw needs picking up off the floor. C: Joker in this really reminds me of Lorne.


Jessica - Apr 14, 2004 5:55:11 pm PDT #1660 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Bone. Definitely.

Mmmmmmm, Bone. Good stuff. But be aware that it gets kinda dark around books 3-4. (And then lightens up again in 5, and then gets dark again.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 15, 2004 1:41:42 am PDT #1661 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm fuming after seeing White Wolf freelancer Chris Kobar go off with an insulting, hateful rant against a fan for daring to ask a question of developer Justin Achilli a few days ago. (By contrast, Justin's previous response, while not informative, wasn't in any way disrespectful.)

As there may be some customers of White Wolf or other game companies in this thread, I thought I'd link to the relevant tirade and let you decide if, like me, you'll be happier not supporting this sort of hostility and ingratitude in the future:

chriskobar - 04/09/2004 10:14:36


Tom Scola - Apr 15, 2004 2:58:14 am PDT #1662 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Aspiring Bat-fans might want to take a look at Batman: The Ultimate Guide to the Dark Knight, which is a coffee-table book giving a fairly up-to-date info on the mythos.


Kalshane - Apr 15, 2004 5:51:51 am PDT #1663 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Having read the rant, I'm kind of "Eh" about it. Yes, he was harsher than he needed to be but it doesn't fall into my "How could he say that?" category. It sounds to me like the reply of someone who's heard that question (or ones very much like it) a million times and lost their patience. Could he have used a lot more tact and lessons in customer service, definitely, but it's hardly a deal-breaker for me.

I think we're very lucky as fans that Joss, Tim and co. are so nice to us and have so much patience for some of our little quirks. Honestly, the fan's question seemed to be intended in the way Mr. Kobar interpreted it, a chance to settle debates with "Well, Justin said X." in much the same way we say "Well, Joss said X." The difference is, Joss has a clear vision for the Buffyverse and his word is essentially law. WW, on the other hand, encourages their fans to make their own worlds, using their books as inspiration.

Of course, Mr. Kobar could have gone about explaining this and the reasons behind Justin's non-answer in a much nicer way and probably should have, but I just see that as being rude rather than insulting. YIMV, of course.

Though it certainly proves that Joss, Tim and Co. are much cooler than the WW people.

ETA: Also, reading his later posts in the same thread, he restates his opinion a little (not a lot, but a little)more tactfully. It would have been nice if he'd added an apology for his earlier posting, but it gives me more of an inclination to see the first post as being a little more pissy than his usual.


Steph L. - Apr 15, 2004 6:08:15 am PDT #1664 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

For some reason, I thought 1602 #8 was out next week. Maybe I'm confusing it with The Escapist. Hmm. Must go to comic store at lunch.

On Robin, amych said that Spoiler is gonna take over (and be the first she-Robin in the main continuity).

When you say "main continuity," does that not include Dark Knight Returns? (Which I just finished last night, BTW.) Because -- what about Carrie? (Who is a little crazy, IMO.)


Tom Scola - Apr 15, 2004 6:11:10 am PDT #1665 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

DKR is definitely not part of the main continuity. It would have been an "Elseworlds" title had such a thing existed when it was first published.