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Jeff Mejia - Feb 11, 2004 6:25:08 am PST #1409 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Wasn't one of the tales Drusilla's 1997 trauma in Prague? If the little girl is Giles' grandmother, she must hitch a ride with Mr. Peabody and his Wayback Machine at some point.

I thought of this point after posting my original supposition, but I decided to stick with it. Maybe it is that the Tales that we see have no bearing on the framing story. (FWIW, Joss' story illustrated by Cameron Stewart included Lord of the Rings movie references).


victor infante - Feb 11, 2004 6:33:15 am PST #1410 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

The vampire in the Tales framing story made it clear that some of the stories hadn't happened yet. How this is has yet to be revealed.


CaBil - Feb 11, 2004 10:00:18 am PST #1411 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Just read this week's ToV.

Bwah-hhhahhh-hhhahh!

Drew Goddard's Dracula story is riot! Must read. Everyone must go out and get it now!


Steph L. - Feb 11, 2004 10:05:24 am PST #1412 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Is the new 1602 out today?


CaBil - Feb 11, 2004 10:07:34 am PST #1413 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Yeah, that too.

But read the Tales of the Vampire first...


Anne W. - Feb 11, 2004 4:10:55 pm PST #1414 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

As for 1602, I was very, very surprised by a lot of things. They killed off Dr. Strange! It was very Minearish, IMO. I was not quite as surprised by what happened to Jean.

The ending, on the other hand, was one of the best examples of HSQ that didn't involve blood and/or pain. That was probably the last character I expected to be other than what he seemed.

The only thing that felt a little off to me was the bit with Reed Richards talking about stories. Although it was neat in and of itself, it was too obviously Gaiman being Gaiman.


justkim - Feb 11, 2004 5:03:11 pm PST #1415 of 10000
Another social casualty...

Anne is me in all things. Do you think Jean is really dead or did she become Phoenix? I can't decide.


Anne W. - Feb 11, 2004 5:06:14 pm PST #1416 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'm thinking really dead, simply because it would actually be a bit of a twist.


esse - Feb 11, 2004 5:13:14 pm PST #1417 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I am sooooo behind on 1602.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2004 5:19:00 pm PST #1418 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know -- they did say "ashes." I didn't see her death coming, and I realise that I really should have, because protecting shipmates and dying doing so is how it went down the first time.