Me too! I pre ordered Firefly as well, Due to arrive Dec 15th. Probably will arrive earlier.
Yay!!!
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sfmarty - Sep 19, 2003 7:01:49 am PDT #1032 of 10000
Who? moi??
Michele T. - Sep 19, 2003 8:06:47 pm PDT #1033 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Here's Neil Gaiman on Virginia Dare, from his blog:
I did a web-search for Virginia Dare. It says she was a real person and that there is a story that she turned herslef into a white deer. Did you know this? There's a page about her story at [link] amd more on the legend at [link]
Yes, I knew it. Truth to tell, I sort of automatically assumed that most Americans probably were familiar with the story of Virginia Dare and the White Doe, because I first read about it when I was a little kid in England, and, well, you people live here.
(And I just googled, and this -- [link] -- was the first thing that came up, which seems a good retelling of the version I'd heard.)
So, yes, she was a real person, who was, in many stories, killed in the form of a white doe, by a silver arrow. She, and Elizabeth, and James of Scotland, are pretty much it for my real historical people (although there are innkeepers, soldiers, papal assassins, and executioners who just walked on when I needed them and aren't meant to be analogues of anyone really.)
Katie M - Sep 19, 2003 8:28:48 pm PDT #1034 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Huh. I've never heard that story in my life.
esse - Sep 19, 2003 8:30:13 pm PDT #1035 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
Really? Man. I assumed everyone knew that. I've known it forever.
Kalshane - Sep 19, 2003 8:32:07 pm PDT #1036 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Complete surprise for me too. Well, I guess that ends a lot of 1602 debates right there.:)
Katie M - Sep 19, 2003 8:32:48 pm PDT #1037 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Well, I'm from New York. Our version of early colonial history outside of New England was "and then they colonized the island and Virginia Dare was born and apparently they all died but there was the word Croatoan carved into a tree trunk the end. Let's talk about the Dutch!"
Always thought it was a creepy story, really.
victor infante - Sep 19, 2003 8:56:41 pm PDT #1038 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Complete surprise for me too. Well, I guess that ends a lot of 1602 debates right there.:)
Not really. Just because it's really Virginia Dare, doesn't mean h's NOT drawing some Snowbird parallel. Especially as there are marked similarities.
Gandalfe - Sep 20, 2003 3:03:13 am PDT #1039 of 10000
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
Apparantly I'm the only one here who read Tales of the Slayers, Vol 1, where Virginia Dare is a Slayer.
DXMachina - Sep 20, 2003 3:18:12 am PDT #1040 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Well, I'm from New York. Our version of early colonial history outside of New England was "and then they colonized the island and Virginia Dare was born and apparently they all died but there was the word Croatoan carved into a tree trunk the end. Let's talk about the Dutch!"
Always thought it was a creepy story, really.
Me, too, Katie, except for the part where I'm from New Jersey.
amych - Sep 20, 2003 5:21:50 am PDT #1041 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Well, I'm from New York. Our version of early colonial history outside of New England...
I'm always shocked (if not at all surprised) by just how state-chauvinistic the history we teach to kids is. In Virginia... well, who says colonial history had to involve New England at all? It was "We were first! Don't listen to that pilgrim stuff! Virginia was here first... well, okay, there were some folks in North Carolina who all died off anyway, so they don't matter, because Virginia was the first real colony. And then some people got to Massachusetts. Later...."
Anyway, in NC, Virginia Dare is huge, huge stuff. Every kid gets the story as much as I got John Smith and Pocahontas.