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DXMachina - Sep 20, 2003 3:18:12 am PDT #1040 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Well, I'm from New York. Our version of early colonial history outside of New England was "and then they colonized the island and Virginia Dare was born and apparently they all died but there was the word Croatoan carved into a tree trunk the end. Let's talk about the Dutch!"

Always thought it was a creepy story, really.

Me, too, Katie, except for the part where I'm from New Jersey.


amych - Sep 20, 2003 5:21:50 am PDT #1041 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Well, I'm from New York. Our version of early colonial history outside of New England...

I'm always shocked (if not at all surprised) by just how state-chauvinistic the history we teach to kids is. In Virginia... well, who says colonial history had to involve New England at all? It was "We were first! Don't listen to that pilgrim stuff! Virginia was here first... well, okay, there were some folks in North Carolina who all died off anyway, so they don't matter, because Virginia was the first real colony. And then some people got to Massachusetts. Later...."

Anyway, in NC, Virginia Dare is huge, huge stuff. Every kid gets the story as much as I got John Smith and Pocahontas.


esse - Sep 20, 2003 6:22:13 am PDT #1042 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

"and then they colonized the island and Virginia Dare was born and apparently they all died but there was the word Croatoan carved into a tree trunk the end. Let's talk about the Dutch!"

You never got the fun mystical stuff? That's too bad.

Apparantly I'm the only one here who read Tales of the Slayers, Vol 1, where Virginia Dare is a Slayer.

No, I read it as well. But I knew the story before I read the book.

Anyway, in NC, Virginia Dare is huge, huge stuff. Every kid gets the story as much as I got John Smith and Pocahontas.

We get Daniel Boone in Tennessee, and Ben Franklin and Dinah Shore in Franklin County.


DXMachina - Sep 20, 2003 6:31:01 am PDT #1043 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

You never got the fun mystical stuff? That's too bad.

Non-sectarian mysticism at a Catholic school? NSM.

We get Daniel Boone in Tennessee, and Ben Franklin and Dinah Shore in Franklin County.

Wow, I hadn't realized Dinah Shore was that old. Her looks really held up pretty well.


P.M. Marc - Sep 20, 2003 6:33:53 am PDT #1044 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

We got the San Juan Pig Wars.

And, umm. The Oregon Trail.


esse - Sep 20, 2003 6:39:20 am PDT #1045 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Wow, I hadn't realized Dinah Shore was that old. Her looks really held up pretty well.

Heh. I think she'd dead now, dude. Plus she's from my country or whatever, and we have a Boulevard named after her.


victor infante - Sep 20, 2003 7:27:48 am PDT #1046 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Apparantly I'm the only one here who read Tales of the Slayers, Vol 1, where Virginia Dare is a Slayer.

That's the book version right? I have the graphic novel, but haven't read the short stories.

Wasn't Darla from Roanoke, though, and isn't it insinuated that she and the Master wiped out the colony?


CaBil - Sep 20, 2003 7:29:12 am PDT #1047 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Hard to believe that Victor, the house she was in was way, way too nice for an early colony like Roanoke.

But historical accuracy was never too big on ME's priority list...


DXMachina - Sep 20, 2003 7:30:56 am PDT #1048 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Also, the subtitle in that scene said "The Virginia Colony", or something like that. I'm not sure that would include Roanoke.


CaBil - Sep 20, 2003 7:32:58 am PDT #1049 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Well, the Viriginia colony would have been founded after Roanoke disappeared...