Jayne: That's a good idea. Good idea. Tell us where the stuff's at so I can shoot you. Mal: Point of interest? Offering to shoot us might not work so well as an incentive as you might imagine.

'Out Of Gas'


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§ ita § - May 03, 2004 3:58:43 pm PDT #7462 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

having some kind of kill file, filter, or whatever is so old-hat that when I first joined this group (on WX) I hesitated to get too involved because I really felt like any board was badly broken without one

Yeah, but plonking is still an issue on USENET -- I see it done and bitched about to this day. And introducing the paranoia that you're posting to an empty room (and you're not actually a troll) is going to be a shift in board culture.


Liese S. - May 04, 2004 6:23:59 am PDT #7463 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

A significant shift. One I'm not thrilled about, although I certainly respect and understand the need for it. It's just too bad.


Sean K - May 04, 2004 7:22:24 am PDT #7464 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, most of the people testing said they'd probably never use the filter.

I hope the shift in board culture won't be too severe.

As for me, thumbs up from this tester. I was never able to cause an error of any kind.


tommyrot - May 04, 2004 7:47:55 am PDT #7465 of 10000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm just a little curious....

If user X decides to filter user Y, would user Y know? What if user Y asks user X a question, and then 20 posts later Y is all, "I ASKED YOU A QUESTION, X - WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?" OK, that's an extreme example....

Or various other scenareos where X, Y and other Buffistas are conversing about a particular subject, and X not reading Y's posts causing confusion and a bunch of extra posts to clear up the confusion, before it is realized that X is filtering Y.

I'm not saying things should be a certain way - ENUF filters have never come up as an issue with me... I'm just curious.


§ ita § - May 04, 2004 7:49:27 am PDT #7466 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Tommy, those are certainly things that happen with filters. It's why they aren't magic, and why anyone using them needs to be prepared for them raising tensions.


Katie M - May 04, 2004 7:50:55 am PDT #7467 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, those are completely possible. There is a function to allow you to look at a particular post from a filtered user without unblocking them, so that would make it easier to follow a conversation where one person was blocked.

I'd think that if one were filtering someone else, one would be capable of managing one's posts so as to not make it obvious, though. (Well, minus the example given of a specific question.)


Lyra Jane - May 04, 2004 8:15:53 am PDT #7468 of 10000
Up with the sun

Jesse is right, RIGHT I TELL YOU, that it should just be called user filter. And then, the post should read, "This post has been filtered."

Agreed. Personally, I liked MARCIE and find the term "blinvisible" grating, but I recognize that whatever we call it formally will quickly become background noise. But in general, I think low-whimsy is good for this function.

Well, minus the example given of a specific question.

Eh. You can always say, "sorry, I was skimming." There's no way to prove a post you didn't respond to is filtered.


§ ita § - May 04, 2004 8:22:02 am PDT #7469 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eh. You can always say, "sorry, I was skimming."

Given a number of people have already copped to pre-event paranoia of being filtered, I don't see this calming things down much. Especially if it happens a lot, or obviously.


tommyrot - May 04, 2004 8:28:28 am PDT #7470 of 10000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I know that there's not gonna be a list of who's filtering who, but I'm guessing the filtering won't be very widespread. Maybe after filtering has been going on for a few weeks, a stompy coud say, "15% of (activly posting) Buffistas are using filters - they are filtering an average of 2% of other (actively posting) Buffistas."

Might make people feel better. Of course, if filtering becomes widespread this won't help.


§ ita § - May 04, 2004 8:30:27 am PDT #7471 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Actually, I'd rather not report on filtering at all.