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Jesse - Oct 09, 2002 7:55:04 am PDT #623 of 10000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yr so fancy!


DXMachina - Oct 09, 2002 8:26:21 am PDT #624 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

On the archives, I've threadsucked everything that's in the attic, and I'll try to get most of it up to the archives page this weekend. I'm still bugged by the fact that the threadsucks are missing posts. It's a random thing, probably caused by that banner ad that WX puts at the bottom of random pages, but the upshot is that there are posts missing. I have an idea about how to improve the threadsuck program, but I didn't get a chance to mention it to John before he left on holiday.

As an alternative, I tried accessing the WX forums using the newsreader in Mozilla, and was able to download the Contingency Plan and Projects that way, but each forum is a single file containing all the posts in all the threads. I ran into a snag with that method, too, because it refuses to download NAFDA for me. I freely admit that I am a newbie when it comes to NNTP, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them.


Jessica - Oct 09, 2002 8:29:58 am PDT #625 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Why did the "0 new" go away? Did people not like it?


DXMachina - Oct 09, 2002 8:39:13 am PDT #626 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I know that I didn't like "0 new". I think that having "x new" appear only when there are new posts will be especially helpful to make the Beep Me and Press threads stand out when there are new items.


Tom Scola - Oct 09, 2002 8:44:00 am PDT #627 of 10000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I didn't know WX did NNTP, cool.

I could write a Perl script to do the threadsuck using NNTP.


Jessica - Oct 09, 2002 8:44:29 am PDT #628 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Oh, okay. When I first noticed it, I thought I wasn't logged in for a second.


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2002 8:46:01 am PDT #629 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like the 0 new myself, for that reason, Jess. But no one spoke out against its removal, and Jon had already done the work ...


Anne W. - Oct 09, 2002 8:47:21 am PDT #630 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I like the removal. It makes it easier for me to see which topics have been updated.


Jessica - Oct 09, 2002 8:50:57 am PDT #631 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

No biggie, I just wondered.


DXMachina - Oct 09, 2002 8:59:12 am PDT #632 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I could write a Perl script to do the threadsuck using NNTP.

That might work. The other idea I had was to change the current threadsuck script so that it used WX's 'All Messages' option for pageviews. "All Messages' shows the last couple of hundred posts, but you can index the URL with the post number so that you can view other parts of the thread. Not quite as straightforward as the current script because the 'All Messages' option doesn't work the same way as 'Next Page'. You'd have to keep tract of the post numbers in the script, but I think it would be a much faster, more efficient way to download the threads, and since the number of page views per thread is way lower, you'd have far fewer dropped posts, to the point where it would be practical to edit the files and add any missing posts.