No, I understand that. I'm just saying that if we only have two people who are seriously interested, maybe it's not even worth further discussion. If we have 10 people, it might be worth a try.
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Kristen - Oct 28, 2003 1:26:22 pm PST #5846 of 10000
Cindy - Oct 28, 2003 2:59:29 pm PST #5847 of 10000
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Kristen (correct me where I'm wrong, please), I seem to remember that after a past crisis, and/or after ita shut off the RQG, and we pared down our threads, we were using well under 50 connections. If this problem is a MySQL bug (which I realize isn't Steven's fault), we're not actually problem children. We're victims of the bug. Given what's going on, shouldn't Steven resetting the daemon be part of the support he provides as ISP?
I'm in way over my head, so where I sound terse, please read it as me trying not to screw up. I just don't understand why we'd upgrade, if this is a MySQL problem, and not a Phoenix!Code problem, and I don't understand why you're saying our usage would creep up again, if we run under the 50, when we're not afflicted by the bug.
aurelia - Oct 28, 2003 3:08:16 pm PST #5848 of 10000
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Cindy, if I'm following this correctly, we'd keep creeping up after each restart until the bug is fixed.
Theodosia - Oct 28, 2003 3:13:04 pm PST #5849 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Just a thought -- could we negotiate a price for the occasional restarting (resetting? whatever the term is) of MySQL? That would come in between the $20 and the $200 support level, surely.
(Since I know very little about how much labor is involved or whether the labor/services can be priced accordingly, I just throw this out without knowing if it's a laughable idea or not.)
Cindy - Oct 28, 2003 3:28:41 pm PST #5850 of 10000
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Cindy, if I'm following this correctly, we'd keep creeping up after each restart until the bug is fixed.
Okay, I wondered, but don't think of that as us creeping up, but rather an effect of the bug in the code. Thank you, aurelia.
I like Theodosia's idea.
helentm - Oct 29, 2003 10:19:51 am PST #5851 of 10000
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As we get closer to Thursday, I still vote for Kristen's proprosal even if this code error gets fixed. Unless the host changes attitude, I'd like more responsive service, and I think that requires larger sums of money.
Cindy - Oct 29, 2003 11:40:58 am PST #5852 of 10000
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If this error is (as it seems to be) a MySQL bug, I sort of resent us paying (or having the Buffistas chip in the lion's share towards what amounts to) a 100% increase, just to get a response from our ISP (not Kristen, IH--Kristen sweats blood for us)--especially if all we're asking for is for him to reset the daemon when this bug kicks in.
I realize the bug isn't his fault, but it sounds like it isn't our fault, either. Kristen, have you heard from Steven?
Jon B. - Oct 29, 2003 11:49:52 am PST #5853 of 10000
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a 100% increase
1000% increase, actually.
DXMachina - Oct 29, 2003 11:53:39 am PST #5854 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I realize the bug isn't his fault, but it sounds like it isn't our fault, either.
It is our fault in the sense that we selected MySQL for our system, which means we would have this problem where ever we were hosted. I can see Steve's point of view. We chose to use the software with the bug in it, and if that choice requires extra attention from the host, then we need to pay for it.
Kristen - Oct 29, 2003 11:59:07 am PST #5855 of 10000
I haven't heard back from Steven. I just poked him a little while ago about it. For all I know, he's on a rooftop somewhere manning a garden hose.
As for the rest, I really don't see the point of having this conversation again. You guys should make whatever decision you feel is best for the community but staying here in this current configuration is not a long term option, unless you're willing to live with the error messages.