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§ ita § - Oct 27, 2003 6:37:58 am PST #5799 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So how are they defining child processes on that page? What creates one?


Tom Scola - Oct 27, 2003 6:45:51 am PST #5800 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

So how are they defining child processes on that page? What creates one?

They are talking about Apache httpd processes. Normally, on a web server there are multiple instances of Apache running, and that number can grow or shrink depending on server load, but never fall below some predefined threshold.

These persistent msyql connections can't be shared between httpd processes.

This is one of the reasons why we would have to be extremely careful if we decide to implement this. If there are twenty httpds running, and each has 2-3 mysql connections, we can easily exceed our allotment.

Getting this working right would involve fine-tuning Apache, PHP and Mysql server parameters, and would be difficult to do if we didn't have a dedicated connection.


§ ita § - Oct 27, 2003 6:49:56 am PST #5801 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Getting this working right would involve fine-tuning Apache, PHP and Mysql server parameters, and would be difficult to do if we didn't have a dedicated connection.

No doubt, no doubt.

But, I'm wondering -- is it that broken? Do we really have a problem with the connection/page model? MySQL bug aside, of course. It sounds like a fair amount of work.


Tom Scola - Oct 27, 2003 6:52:24 am PST #5802 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

is it that broken?

I really don't know. Steve seems to be complaining about something, though.


§ ita § - Oct 27, 2003 6:56:21 am PST #5803 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Steve seems to be complaining about something, though.

As far as I can tell, Steve is complaining about the effect of the bug Rob saw. We're all hitting up one connection right now, apparently due to that.

Sure, we could all persistently share the one connection, but I suspect that no matter how well tuned, that would make for crap performance.

Once our count is reset, however, do you see a perceivable return on investment to it?


Tom Scola - Oct 27, 2003 7:02:55 am PST #5804 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Once our count is reset, however, do you see a perceivable return on investment to it?

If the server is restared, and Steve is still complaining about server load, then this is one avenue we should explore.

We are doing multiple connections per page view now, aren't we? We should be using at most one, and that should be easy to fix.


Dana - Oct 27, 2003 7:05:33 am PST #5805 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

You guys are so hot.


Astarte - Oct 27, 2003 7:06:35 am PST #5806 of 10000
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Wipes drool from her chin...

Sexxxxxxxxxay competence and knowledge...


§ ita § - Oct 27, 2003 7:09:08 am PST #5807 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We are doing multiple connections per page view now, aren't we? We should be using at most one, and that should be easy to fix.

We've been doing both. I've switched back and forth -- it's made no tangible difference to the error message, as much as I can see. One per page, and you only get the error at the top of the page, not further down.

However, as I see it, Steve hasn't complained about the server load at any time when our bandwidth indicated we were legitimately using all of those connections (certainly once the quote generator was taken off).


Lee - Oct 27, 2003 7:12:33 am PST #5808 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

You guys are so hot.

Glad I'm not the only one who was, um, enjoying this.