Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

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DCJensen - Oct 23, 2003 3:24:38 pm PDT #5631 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

It's tanstaafl. (Because I have nothing better to do with my not-so-free time.)

It's called a typo. fixed it.


Kristen - Oct 23, 2003 3:32:59 pm PDT #5632 of 10000

Since we really aren't using our alloted bandwidth and resources, and it does seem to be more of an MSQL error, how much would buying a higher support level for what we do have cost in relation to the cost of a whole new package?

The problem is you can't buy more MySQL connections. We have the highest allotment allowed in a shared hosting environment [which is 50 BTW]. It's just not an option. IH has other clients on this server to consider. FanGeek has a semi-dedicated, of which you're one account. The only higher support levels would be for you to be a semi-dedicated account on our dedicated server or for you to go out and get your own dedicated server.

And let me clarify something. They're not saying "pony up or leave." I guess, if anyone's saying that, it's me. You can stay here forever if you want on your $20 plan. But you're going to keep getting error messages. I haven't gotten the sense that anyone really wants to do that.

I'm in a weird position. One on hand, I totally see where you guys are coming from. But on the other, I do see their point. This account has gone over on connections so often in the past that, when no one else on the server is experiencing the problem, it's not surprising that IH doesn't believe the fault is on their end.

Which reminds me...

ita, I had a thought. We put in those explicit closes to cut down on our connections. But since going over and crashing the server isn't an issue anymore, do you want to try taking them back out and seeing what happens?

And I like the week idea, I think my fears are probably unjustified and I'm reacting to the the time crunch imposed earlier.

Also, just to be clear, the week is for you to find hosting elsewhere. The FG/IH offer still expires tomorrow.


Cindy - Oct 23, 2003 3:34:14 pm PDT #5633 of 10000
Nobody

What the bleeding hell is tanstaafl?


meara - Oct 23, 2003 3:45:25 pm PDT #5634 of 10000

There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch, Cindy.


DCJensen - Oct 23, 2003 3:46:37 pm PDT #5635 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

xpost


Una - Oct 23, 2003 3:53:03 pm PDT #5636 of 10000
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

Too late to expand tanstaafl, but still pointing to new favourite netspeak site. Which gave me a long moment of geeky joy upon learning that ACRONYM can actually be a meaningful acronym. Hee.

(Abbreviated Coded Rendition Of Name Yielding Meaning)


Wolfram - Oct 23, 2003 4:07:46 pm PDT #5637 of 10000
Visilurking

It's called a typo. fixed it.

But I can edit too and still make you look crazy.


Sophia Brooks - Oct 23, 2003 8:15:27 pm PDT #5638 of 10000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I just wanted to chime in (because at some point I knew who was giving what, too) that I agree with Jesse that we won't have a huge problem gathering money right now (especially since it seems like a crisis). Last time we gathered, people gave what they could, and if we hadn't calmed people down, I think they would have given more than 2400.

I don't think that board culture will change unless we make it a point to praise/chastise eople for their donations. I am more than happy to help with drumming up support/sending mass emails again.

Also, I am really non-tech savvy, so I think the Geekies should decide what is best.


Typo Boy - Oct 23, 2003 8:23:00 pm PDT #5639 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK a couple of points. I agree with not going with the lowest bidder. But I also am suspicious of going with he high bidder who gives us a short deadline for decision, demands strong guarantees from us and offers very limited guarantees in return. I think we should consider dedicated hosting or virtual dedicated hosting rather than making a rushed decision in those conditions. I think it might be worth considering the offer if they would give us an out if things still don't work our.

Secondly I think most of us (don't want to speak for ita) misunderstood and thought the week was an extension on the offer. I don't think it is a reasonable deadline for finding and moving to a new host. I thought you said we could stay with the current plan as long as we wishe and just get error messages. If we decide to move to a new host, then I think we should stay with this one until we find the right one. Of course we would accept that until we get the riight one we would get error messages and limited technical support. But if this proves not to be the right host for us, then we should not do what we did with host rocket and have to rush to find a new one. We should stick with this one until we find a new one.

Lastly, I'm totally with the Geeks who have been active buffista geeks making the decision. I offer my opinion for what it is worth. But even though I'm a geek, I'm not one who has contributed much technically to the board. But I have not only technical experience but business experience, I can tell you that I think the offer (well-meant as it is) is likely to provide unhappiness for both us, and our host. If it solves the problem of course stuff would be fine. But if it did not and there is no guarantee we both would be miserable.

As I understand it, in the virtual hosting environmet we can do everything we need including rebooting. True?


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2003 8:25:09 pm PDT #5640 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

demands strong guarantees from us and offers very limited guarantees in return

Refresh my memory -- what guarantees (apart from money and contract length) are they demanding, and what are they not giving us back?

in the virtual hosting environmet we can do everything we need including rebooting. True?

My assumption was that rebooting was not possible -- not a cold reboot, anyway.