Um, er, they were up on the crosses for three days
They were up for three hours, not three days. The resurrection was a day and a half later.
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DXMachina - Oct 06, 2003 4:20:33 am PDT #5113 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Elena - Oct 06, 2003 6:40:27 am PDT #5114 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.
Would three hours be enough to kill someone? Wasn't this a form of execution?
(Or is Monty Python right and they got cut down once the crowd lost interest?)
Nutty - Oct 06, 2003 6:49:04 am PDT #5115 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Not to get into Biblical exegesis in BBABB, but hanging off a cross kills you by hanging you from your arms till your chest can't take it any more and you suffocate. It can take days, if you have your legs under you, braced against something. (This is how Spartacus got it, and why he could still say his lines to Peter Ustinov a day after they hung him up.) Take away the legs (break knees), or ruin the lower body muscles on the trunk (belly stabbage), and hasten the suffocation a lot.
I believe, in Biblical accounts, there was a holiday scheduled to start at sundown, and they'd only just begun the crossage at noonish, and they really needed the bodies to be done with before the holiday started, so Jesus and his crucified friends got the quickie treatment and died in about 3 hours.
You know the fun part? The doctors in the Renaissance who experimented with corpses to figure out how crucifixion worked. (Like, where the nails would go.)
DavidS - Oct 06, 2003 6:59:55 am PDT #5116 of 10000
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Nutty, you forgot to mention how excruciatingly painful it was. That getting nails through your hands was the least of it.
DXMachina - Oct 06, 2003 7:03:19 am PDT #5117 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
so Jesus and his crucified friends got the quickie treatment and died in about 3 hours.
Right, they broke the legs of the two criminals, but they stabbed Jesus, instead.
You know the fun part? The doctors in the Renaissance who experimented with corpses to figure out how crucifixion worked. (Like, where the nails would go.)
IIRC, though, most crucifixion victims had their arms and legs tied to the cross. Nails were reserved for special cases.
askye - Oct 06, 2003 8:11:48 am PDT #5118 of 10000
Thrive to spite them
I thought the nails went through the wrists, through the bones, rather than the hands becuase couldn't take the weight of the body but the wrists could.
DXMachina - Oct 06, 2003 8:19:26 am PDT #5119 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
That's the way I've heard it, too, between the radius and the ulna.
Nutty - Oct 06, 2003 8:21:53 am PDT #5120 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Right. Askye's point is what the experimenters had to find out, in the Renaissance. Or later? Anyway, some doctor in France hung dead arms from a nail in his door lintel until he figured out a way that would actually hang for 3 hours. The ones with nails through the hands just slithered out between the tendons and bones and the arm flopped off after a few minutes.
Michele T. - Oct 06, 2003 8:46:03 am PDT #5121 of 10000
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On-topic: any word on how the board is doing post-premiere?
Jon B. - Oct 06, 2003 9:28:04 am PDT #5122 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
We're still hanging on, Michele.
(sorry)