Hey! What do you two think you're doing? Fightin' at a time like this. You'll use up all the air!

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Deena - Apr 11, 2003 12:39:06 pm PDT #3737 of 10000
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

It was easy work, cake walk stuff.

ita, blessings on you and on your krav, blessings on your house and your knives, blessings on your work time and your posting time.

t faux irish blessing, edited for applicability


Daisy Jane - Apr 11, 2003 12:40:27 pm PDT #3738 of 10000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Thanks ita, for getting us back up and running. I, and I'm sure other people too, am very very happy to be back "home."


amyth - Apr 11, 2003 4:28:53 pm PDT #3739 of 10000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

throws flowers (no, not quite right) throws kisses (not that either) throws knives (well, that was a little suicidal) throws self at ita's feet.

What amych said.


PaulJ - Apr 11, 2003 5:42:45 pm PDT #3740 of 10000

Okay, I've been reading the discussions in this thread about MARCIE. From what I've seen, the general (fake?) consensus about the spec has been:

  • On the header of each post, along with the "Mark" (and the "Edit", "Delete") links, a new "Hide"/"Unhide" link. Clicking on it would block/unblock all the posts of that poster.

  • Posts blacklisted would show "text of post rendered blinvisible by Marcie." in small font, possibly with a link to the FAQ explaining what it is.

  • Interface in the user's profile page to unblock posters.

  • The block would work according to the users's ID, not the name.

From what I've seen, everybody pretty much agrees with the above. As for other options, we have:

  • Hiding a post also suppresses the user's tagline (suggested by Noumenon).

  • Each user can block up to 15 other posters (suggested by Noumenon, due to perfomance reasons).

  • Potentially, the posibility of reading just one particular post of a blocked user by clicking on a link. This would *not* unblock the user, would not add it to a hypothetical list of unblocked posts in the DB, etc.; it would just reload the page with that post unblocked, and that would be it.

Are there any objections?


§ ita § - Apr 11, 2003 5:45:52 pm PDT #3741 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Posts blacklisted would show "text of post rendered blinvisible by Marcie." in small font, possibly with a link to the FAQ explaining what it is.

You know, I'm thinking if you've blocked a poster, you already know what it is. We probably don't need the link there. And as mentioned upthread, it's eyecatching.

On the header of each post, along with the "Mark" (and the "Edit", "Delete") links, a new "Hide"/"Unhide" link. Clicking on it would block/unblock all the posts of that poster.

My brain runs along the line of blocking a poster and hiding a post ... does that make sense? So Hide implies to me that it's just the post that's going to go. Maybe you would like to hide the poster, but I don't think it's legal.


PaulJ - Apr 11, 2003 5:49:31 pm PDT #3742 of 10000

(Cereal:)

Just read what ita mentioned about CVS in Bureaucracy. The problem is, I have no idea about CVS at all, nor I have a machine where I could host a server (access to lots of them at work, but would rather not use them for personal stuff). I just stepped up because I have now a few free days and I thought that MARCIE looked simple enough for me to implement it during this break, but if I were to do it, it would have to be in the old-fashioned way: developers send me the code, I send back diffs (or modified files), they are checked and merged, etc. (obviously, that would be the only way if we don't have CVS). Would there be a problem with cooperating in this way just for this particular case, since there's apparently a strong need for this feature?


PaulJ - Apr 11, 2003 5:51:52 pm PDT #3743 of 10000

You know, I'm thinking if you've blocked a poster, you already know what it is. We probably don't need the link there

Yes, but as Noumenon mentioned... newbies!! Newbies in new places!! Newbies clicking on things by accident!

My brain runs along the line of blocking a poster and hiding a post ... does that make sense?

Oh, okay. Actually that's just gravy, isn't it? Doesn't take too much to change "Unhide" for "Unblock" or "UnMarcie" in the code.


bitterchick - Apr 11, 2003 5:59:00 pm PDT #3744 of 10000

The problem is, I have no idea about CVS at all, nor I have a machine where I could host a server (access to lots of them at work, but would rather not use them for personal stuff).

Okay, I can give you a place to host stuff if you need it. How much space are we talking?

Also, I downloaded the CVS manual. Let me see if I can get a handle on how this thing works.


§ ita § - Apr 11, 2003 5:59:14 pm PDT #3745 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Actually that's just gravy, isn't it?

Gravy??!? Gravy???? It's semantics! The stuff of which the universe is composed!!

Completely vital. Also completely liable to slip through the cracks or changed covertly by secret tech cabal fiat.

Would there be a problem with cooperating in this way just for this particular case, since there's apparently a strong need for this feature?

I think the person it would drive craziest is you, so if you're up for it ... the other potential issue is time. Like you having any to yourself.


§ ita § - Apr 11, 2003 6:00:41 pm PDT #3746 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

bitterchick, the code itself takes up 761K. I'm not sure what CVS overhead is.