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Do you have problems, concerns or recommendations about the technical side of the Phoenix? Air them here. Compliments also welcome.

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Daisy Jane - Sep 20, 2002 1:52:59 pm PDT #276 of 10000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

The linking thing is in the FAQ, but it's not in the How-to or HTML or quick edit links. It would probably be easier if it were. Those would be the places I would look, and did being a linking novice and all.


John H - Sep 20, 2002 5:26:51 pm PDT #277 of 10000

I just want to put on record the following behaviour.

I have a bookmark for my Message Centre.

When I start up my browser and click on it, the first time, I'm automatically redirected to the front page.

This is not because I'm logged out, because the front page knows who I am thanks to the "remember me" function.

On any subsequent time I use this bookmark, it works normally.


Typo Boy - Sep 20, 2002 5:49:22 pm PDT #278 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Its not the bookmark John. If you manually type your message center URL into the browser window it still bounces you to the home page. I think what is happening is that logging in is transferring you to the home page.

Makes sense does it not? You go the message center, not yet logged in. The board detects your cookie and logs you in. And that puts you at the home page, just as if you did not have "remember me" checked and logged in manually.


John H - Sep 20, 2002 10:16:10 pm PDT #279 of 10000

So "remember me" doesn't remember me then does it? It's really "log me in automatically" which I subconsciously want to happen transparently no matter which page I go to.

But we had this argument, or one like it, in August 2001 so let's not revisit it.


§ ita § - Sep 20, 2002 10:19:25 pm PDT #280 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Actually, it depends on the page. Try going straight to this one -- does it kick you back anywhere?

I'm not sure what the difference is -- probably that you're not allowed on the message centre unless you're logged in, and it's checking for that before it remembers you.

I'll have to look.


John H - Sep 20, 2002 10:35:08 pm PDT #281 of 10000

it depends on the page. Try going straight to this one -- does it kick you back anywhere?

No, it doesn't. I copied, quit the browser, started again and pasted, and it took me right back here.


§ ita § - Sep 20, 2002 10:36:05 pm PDT #282 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Right. It's the placing of the "are you logged in" code, I'd bet. The admin pages will probably kick you back too. I'll go look.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2002 3:34:36 pm PDT #283 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

John H - Sep 21, 2002 5:11:20 pm PDT #284 of 10000

One thing Rebecca and I were discussing the other day about the board is the titles of windows.

I pretty much know that I'm John H, so putting that at the top of every window is redundant, though not a problem.

What would be immensely cool is if the Message Centre had, in the title bar, some indication of new messages.

Message Centre: No New Posts

changing to

Message Centre: 10 New Posts

or just

Message Centre: New Posts!

as soon as any of my subscribed threads had new material in them.

That way, I could keep it in the background while working and only flip to it when there was stuff to read. Kind of like that "beep for new messages" thing that WX offered, only, not annoying. And it would actually work.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2002 6:11:37 pm PDT #285 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

At the moment, the code is constructed so that the page doesn't actually know if there are new posts (the middle column of the main table is returned as HTML from a function). Which also means that the title bar is written before the check is actually done.

Sooooo ... major structural recoding.