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John H - Jan 10, 2003 2:41:46 pm PST #2748 of 10000

Thanks Rob.

That "Every developer works in his own directory" -- what are the practical applications of that? Apart from all developers being boys not girls I mean. It doesn't solve the problem of people working on a test site being able to break it, does it?

Oh, and for PHP and MySQL installation onto OS X, the best stuff I've found is here: [link] though of course just as I post that, the guy's server appears to be down.

Edit:

This is a nice article to follow on the OS X setups, though it also recommends that Swiss guy's package, so if he's down, same problem.

And hidden away in a series of articles which say they're only about Apache, some really good stuff from O'Reilly.


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2003 2:43:15 pm PST #2749 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It solves it in that I know what you're working on, and I can prevent you from checking out the files I have. So in that sense, we won't trample on each other.


Lyra Jane - Jan 10, 2003 2:45:19 pm PST #2750 of 10000
Up with the sun

How come some posters have white space between the line with their name on it and their tagline, and others don't? And how can I get rid of mine?


Rebecca Lizard - Jan 10, 2003 2:46:13 pm PST #2751 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

/me puts up hand.

(But, dude, you closed the "tag". Were you taking it down?)


John H - Jan 10, 2003 2:49:30 pm PST #2752 of 10000

you closed the "tag"

Ah, the innocence of youth. I mean I know you're joking, and all.

What (is this Natter?) is the word for a joke made using an interface convention you know won't work, but other people will recognise from another application? See also "I think you're a moron^H^H^H^H^H^H^H mistaken".


Rob - Jan 10, 2003 2:54:00 pm PST #2753 of 10000

Actually, CVS doesn't work that way. Everyone can make changes to the same files at the same time. It's just when you try to check those files back in that you learn that someone else has been there before you.

Usually, though, CVS can merge your changes and the other person's changed automatically. It does by looking at the changes you made to the base version and the changes the other guy made to that same base version. Unless you're changing the same lines, there's mergey goodness.

Assuming I had a test setup on my Mac, here's how I would work:

Update from CVS to my machine, getting the latest changes.

Try them out, make sure it's all working on my machine.

Make my changes locally, testing as I go.

Update again, just in case someone has changed things in CVS while I was working. If the changes conflict, work out the conflicts locally.

Test one more time.

If we were using a ReleaseNotes file, this is when I'd write my release note, listing the files I changed and why.

Check in my changes. CVS calls this process committing. Heh.

That's the basic idea. There needs to be a little more refinement, for example, to come up with a way that we offically bless a set of sources in CVS as being the next Phoenix and move them over to production.


Rebecca Lizard - Jan 10, 2003 2:55:22 pm PST #2754 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Ah, the innocence of youth. I mean I know you're joking, and all.

What what what? How is this....

going to AIM now.


Rob - Jan 10, 2003 3:01:11 pm PST #2755 of 10000

Thanks for the links. I'll start playing around with that this weekend.

Looks like the MySQL guys are taking over distribution of the Mac OS X versions.


Michele T. - Jan 10, 2003 3:02:18 pm PST #2756 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

How come some posters have white space between the line with their name on it and their tagline, and others don't? And how can I get rid of mine?

Lyra, as far as I can figure out, this is caused when the single space after "Mark" on the line above the tagline wraps, and the word "Mark" itself does not. The best way to fix it is to change the size of your browser window.


John H - Jan 10, 2003 3:07:33 pm PST #2757 of 10000

Looks like the MySQL guys are taking over distribution of the Mac OS X versions.

That's probably good. Now people can stop being snotty about the version that Apple provides.

Hey by the way, the lastest version of PHP doesn't pass variables from the query string to the page by default. It's turned off on a default install and you have to turn it on in a php.ini file.