I think that now we're down to browser settings. When I hit 'Message Center', the page refreshes. If I then go into a thread, and then use the back button to get back to the Message Center, it doesn't refresh, which is how God intended it, darn it.

Oh man, and you know what else? Huh? Huh? I can hit the back button from the posting box, and then go forward, and my post IS STILL THERE!!!

force a refresh (ctrl+f5, IEistas.)

A keyboard way to do this! I knew you could do it by holding down Ctrl while clicking Refresh, but I'll use this too.

Well, it's back to the broke way it was before. There aren't enough settings for session_cache_limiter. But DX is right -- what I did was put it in the hands of the browser. But there has to be another way.

John -- the shooting script is often wrong. That's why I wasn't using it as the final source.

the shooting script is often wrong

Not wrong in cases like this though, surely. Someone from ME wrote it the way I hear it.

Xander's line on the show is essentially the same as in the script, but got misheard in transcription, that's all.

I tried restarting my computer to see if that would help, and when I came back here, it still had me logged in. And it keeps making me log in again when I try to read stuff, and whenever it does it puts me back in Bitches.

In order to get the page to refresh, I'm having to force a refresh (ctrl+f5, IEistas.)

Is that the same thing as hitting the refresh button? Because that hasn't been working for me. I'll try ctrl+f5.

Not wrong in cases like this though, surely.

What characterizes a case like this? One where it agrees with you? C'mon man, I'm asking for nothing more than for someone to pull a tape, verify (perhaps send off a note to psyche) and then we'll edit. I think it's perfectly reasonable to have an authority chain that runs memory > script > transcript > tape.

I am absolutely not saying you're wrong or the transcript is right.

There should be a long, clearly distinguishable pause after "Sir," the way I'd say it. The other would be all run together. Let's have Scrappy check her tape for it, she's a professional.

On the sounds page, it's listed as "Jimmy Olson jokes are." The actaul sound file won't open for me, though.

I'm going to find the tape, and listen to it, and I'm going to call Rebecca and have her listen too.

I don't object to your rigourousness, ita, really I don't, I just look at that line and I know it's as wrong as a wrong thing on National Wrong Day, and I just think everyone should just see that too. I'm not very coherent or reasonable today.

Thanks for the SQL by the way.

But DX is right -- what I did was put it in the hands of the browser. But there has to be another way.

But isn't that the way it was at WX? I know that the Forums page on WX only updated manually until I changed my browser setting to "every time I view a page." And even then, the only time it's a problem is when you come out of a thread. The Message Center will refresh itself given enough time, and if you can't wait for the refresh interval, you can hit Refresh manually.